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PostPosted: 04-11-2012 17:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another post from Derren, which cleared up my question. Steve is now a Teaching assistant, not a teacher. You can become a teaching assistant without any training whatsoever.

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We all survived. Steven is a finer Steven than before: despite a week of negative Twitter speculation reported disingenuously in the Sun, he really did do it and he really is a better man for it. For those wondering what has happened to him since, Steven now works as a teaching assistant in a special-needs school, a job he finds much more rewarding then the series of positions he held before. And I think in time he’ll make an excellent teacher. For now he’s keeping his Twitter and FaceBook set to private, but I’m sure before too long he’ll open them up and you’ll be able to ask him about his experience.
The show was, as many of you spotted, The Wizard of Oz with zombies. Our Dorothy (you’ll have noted the Kansas Autos sign on our mechanic’s van who visits Steven’s house) did not seek a place over the rainbow, but nonetheless had to learn that there is no place like home. With some extra motivation and carpe diem thrown in: L. Frank Baum’s message that you don’t need to go looking anywhere further than your own back yard always struck me as a little limiting. After the tornado/apocalypse, our Dorothy encounters Leona – of course a cheap play on ‘lion’ – to discover courage and responsibility, a scarecrow (Iain) who becomes indecisive and necessitates a new alpha-male in the group, and a tin-man (Danny) who, having no heart, makes it necessary for Steven to find his own. The Yellow Brecon Road awaits to take Steven to salvation, but it is Oscar Zulu from Emerald Communications – the wizard (ahem) behind the curtain – who provides the noisy, army equivalent of his hot air balloon to take them away. You’ll have spotted the graphic on the side of the helicopter. Like Dorothy, Steven is left behind: before he can return home he has to say what he has learnt from his experience, and what he has known all along. Which he does, movingly, in the video tape he makes for his family. To encourage this moment, we had him see the others do the same and held the camera held back from him until he was ready. That done, and his lesson learnt, cue the deus ex machina of the phone call (I know now I should have floated down in Glinda’s bubble for absolute authenticity) and he’s magically transported back home to a life now dramatically reassessed.
Writing a show with an unscripted, unwitting central character is a strange and demanding task. My co-creators Iain Sharkey (himself a freaked-out participant in my Séance programme many years ago where we first met) and Stephen Long worked on the idea with me in the first instance, before Mark Gatiss got involved to help find possibilities for narrative. The massive bulk of the extraordinary writing task was then shared by Iain and a gifted, lovely writer called Ben Teasdale, both of whom gave heart and soul to the project. Sharkey can be seen starring as the first we see of the ‘infected’, behind the window in the red tag building. His condition of butt-nakedness-save-for-a-backless-hospital-gown was sadly lost in the gloomy lighting of the sequence, but I’m sure it added to Steven’s growing sense of deathly horror.
For my production team to make it all happen took a level of dedication and love almost unheard of in the industry. Working 30 days without a break, spending nights awake in Steven’s shed waiting to pull a plug to his television, they were stretched beyond anything one would expect anyone to put into making a television show. Samuel Palmer and Dave Struthers in particular – both brilliant and talented core members of our little family – deserve special mention here. Dave’s Twitter feed over the last week was a tirade of fury at the glib, uninformed assurances of fraud after the endless work he and Sam put into the hugely demanding job of secretly filming Steven over such a long period of time. I bow to the extraordinary level of commitment and resolve shown by the whole team, who were bonded above all by a desire to do right by Steven. It was a formidable show to make.
And it’s not over yet. Next week brings two more shows under the banner Derren Brown: Fear and Faith. In part one, airing this Friday at 9, we follow the first members of the public to take a wonder-drug, developed for the military, that completely eradicates the experience of fear. It was another astonishing journey. I hope you enjoy it.



http://derrenbrown.co.uk/post-apocalypse/
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PostPosted: 04-11-2012 21:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting that, it's a shame nobody believes anything anymore except the worst (well, sort of). As a note, was anybody else worried that Derren was able to hypnotise the guy over the phone?!
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PostPosted: 04-11-2012 21:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a note, was anybody else worried that Derren was able to hypnotise the guy over the phone?!
I think it's only possible with the simplest of minds which he obviously was.
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PostPosted: 04-11-2012 21:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure he'd rather say it was down to him being more suggestible in an tense and alien situation! But if I'd been through that and saw the phone, I'd be thinking "Waaaaaiiit a minute!", assuming I'd gotten to that stage.
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PostPosted: 04-11-2012 21:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, who was doing the filming in the helicopter?
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PostPosted: 04-11-2012 22:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Derren's early shows he did a thing where he would cause just random people in the street to collapse over the phone.

He would ring a pay phone and say something to whoever answered and they would collapse. From what I remember there is a certain kind of person who would answer a pay phone and then he would just say something completely random. Of course they didn't show all the times it didn't work.

I wonder if he was actually in some state of hypnosis.

Either that or Derren said, 'it's OK Steve, you don't have to walk to Wales', and he collapsed with relief.
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PostPosted: 05-11-2012 13:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed the show, but did anyone else find it terrifically moralising?

Or perhaps we ought to be thanking Derren for saving the world from one more Slacker.
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PostPosted: 06-11-2012 11:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

liveinabin1 wrote:
In Derren's early shows he did a thing where he would cause just random people in the street to collapse over the phone.

He would ring a pay phone and say something to whoever answered and they would collapse. From what I remember there is a certain kind of person who would answer a pay phone and then he would just say something completely random. Of course they didn't show all the times it didn't work.


Yup, I used to love that! lol. He also did one where he got a young guy to feel really drunk when Derren said a certain word. He could then just text this young man & he would become drunk just from reading said word!
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PostPosted: 06-11-2012 11:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

James_H2 wrote:
I enjoyed the show, but did anyone else find it terrifically moralising?

Or perhaps we ought to be thanking Derren for saving the world from one more Slacker.


Yes i did think "isn't it a bit much, couldn't his mum just give him a bollocking for being a lazy git" (which tbh, is the parents fault for letting him get away with it for so long!) Rolling Eyes

It wasn't Derren's best work, yup it was a big production etc, but I do think his early tv work was much better. Making the guy on the tube train forget his station is still one of the best IMHO.
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PostPosted: 06-11-2012 11:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you don't think that any of this stuff was staged then?
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PostPosted: 06-11-2012 12:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at the library the other day, and bought three books. One of them was Derren Brown 'Tricks of the Mind'. He explains how to do 'some' of his stuff. I'm interested in his section on body language.
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PostPosted: 06-11-2012 13:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Tricks of the mind" book is a great read. Really interesting.

I love his cold reading of audience memebers on his live shows too. Great stuff!
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PostPosted: 10-11-2012 18:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice and positive last night, with Derren as a combination life coach and social worker. Weird that placebos can cure allergies. Good to see the anxiety guy make such an improvement. Bet the first fear of heights chap was annoyed it worked so quickly on him, he was hardly in it.

Derren's favourite subject (apart from mediums) next week: he's dismantling the world's religions!
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PostPosted: 12-11-2012 11:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved it! Can't wait for next weeks Smile

Also, I liked the drugs name: Rumyodin = your mind Cool
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PostPosted: 17-11-2012 18:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting one last night, thought it was a bit cruel to put the scientist girl through her fake religious revelation, though she was quite cheerful about it at the end. Kind of worrying how easy it is to manipulate people into this, though Derren is an expert what if there's someone who decides to use his powers and techniques for evil?

Also, kind of embarrassing to see how many supposedly non-religious people get massively superstitious instead. Reminds me of the G.K. Chesterton quote (paraphrased), "When people stop believing in God they start believing in anything". Not sure about lumping the agnostics in with the atheists, though.
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