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PostPosted: 11-01-2010 23:33    Post subject: The Woolworth Building and 9/11. Reply with quote

There is a mention of this in the locked 9/11 thread, but I can't find it. Either that, or I'm useless at using the search engine...which is probably nearer the mark.

Anyway, I just wondered if anyone was aware of this site...

http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 01:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew this would happen. Sooner or later somebody was bound to unlock Pandora's Box/break the Seventh Seal/whatever and reignite the 9/11 debate.
So we have missiles being fired from the Woolworth building while at the same time something is being fired at it.
Could this flash/orb thing have been a laser guiding missiles to their target?
Bright white flashes were seen above the North tower just before it collapsed.

Near the bottom of the page is a sighting of a stealth fighter hovering and then turning into an orb. What sort of stealth fighter hovers, and how did it turn into an orb? The orb buzzing around the Woolworths building did not seem to be acting in a fighter-like fashion, but the author seems to be suggesting that cloaking technology is responsible. Sounds even weirder than that !?
Is this orb just a beam, or a weapon, or a cloaking, shapeshifting black project ?
Raises an awful lot more questions than it answers.
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 01:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bet's on it being a time travelling rubber necker, gawping at the carnage, from the safety of his flying saucer.
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 02:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfoot73 wrote:
I knew this would happen. Sooner or later somebody was bound to unlock Pandora's Box/break the Seventh Seal/whatever and reignite the 9/11 debate.


I know, I know, and I do sincerely apologise. Smile

Look, it wasn't really my fault. Somebody on a local forum that I use brought the subject up, and I spent a couple of days debunking his 911 conspiracy theory beliefs. And then I began to look into a subject that I hadn't really taken seriously for a good few years. And I was surprised to find new stuff. The third airliner over Manhattan, flashes of light appearing to reflect from the towers before the aircraft hit, odd looking appendages on the underside of the aircraft...and then flashes of light around the Woolworth Building.

Since 911, I've gone from CT believer to an outright sceptic, and now from an outright sceptic to a ...well, I don't know. Something not quite consistent with the official story went on that day....I think. Confused
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 02:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missiles, cloaked stealth fighters, lasers and holograms... Psychout

Then there's the theory that some of these stories are disinformation, intended to muddy the water and discredit those who have genuine doubts about the official version of events.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/patriots_question/index.html
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 03:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look P_M, will you not do this? I 've got exams in a couple of weeks, and cannot afford to waste time reading this highly interesting stuff.

Holograms...Shayler and Machon...does this technology really exist? I've watched a few Youtube videos which supposedely show this, but eh? I'm prepared to be educated, and sod the exams.
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 04:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at all, Cavynaut, you are obviously one of the more open minded and reasonable commentators on the issue - apart from me of course. Wink Very Happy
A more down to earth spanner in the works of the official explanation can be found at Pilots for 9.11 Truth.com, where people have been decoding the Flight 77 Flight Data Recorder. It seems that the flight deck/passenger cabin door did not open so much as once during the whole flight. The door sensor checked door status every 4 seconds, and it has been established that it was working properly.
How did the hijackers manage to storm the cockpit , eject the crew from the flight deck and everything else without opening that door ?
The FDR already has it's ID number missing, a first, the cockpit voice recorder data was apparently unusable, another first, and now it would seem the hijackers were superhuman ninja acrobats.
Information already made available by the NTSB has shown that the plane was too high to have descended and hit the Pentagon, and that it didn't even fly over the lamp posts it was supposed to have knocked the tops off (even though they had been unbolted and laid on their sides by somebody anyway)
I think it is safe to say that the black boxes scrutinised by the 9.11 commission were not from a plane which had flown into the Pentagon.

Added to all this, a few weeks ago WikiLeaks published pager traffic on 9.11 :- nobody mentioned an airliner flying into the Pentagon. Most reports talk of an explosion on the helicopter pad or a light aircraft crashing nearby.
Then there's all the reports of burning buildings on Washington Mall, a plane crashing into the 14th Street bridge in Washington, and even a second plane flying towards the Pentagon, detected just after 11a.m. - a good hour and 20 minutes after the grounding of all civilian flights, with F16s scrambled to intercept it.
Where did all those stories come from? Why have they never been explained?
Apart from the long established glaring dissimilarities between the small white object filmed hitting the Pentagon and a Boeing 757, now we have this. It's taken 8 years but the official account of Flight 77 is falling apart at the seams.
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 07:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cavynaut wrote:
Look P_M, will you not do this? I 've got exams in a couple of weeks, and cannot afford to waste time reading this highly interesting stuff.

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Ah! Ha! Classic avoidance behaviour, which I recognise from personal experience. Exams coming up? Need to study? Suddenly anything else looks more interesting, instead. Distractions abound! Anything, from Conspiracy Theory material on the internet, to, 'Homes under The Hammer' and 'The Teletubbies', looks more interesting and imbued with extra significance. I bet you're even watching, 'Murder She Wrote', every afternoon.

Don't fritter and footer your time away, Cavynaut, get back to studying! Laughing
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Holograms...Shayler and Machon...does this technology really exist? I've watched a few Youtube videos which supposedely show this, but eh? I'm prepared to be educated, and sod the exams.

imo
Most of it os the stuff of science fiction. I certainly know of no evidence for the likes of the holographic projection technology, or invisibility cloaking devices, proposed in some of these theories, outside the likes of, 'Star Trek' on TV.
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 07:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pietro_Mercurios wrote:
Exams coming up? Need to study? Suddenly anything else looks more interesting, instead. Distractions abound! Anything, from Conspiracy Theory material on the internet, to, 'Homes under The Hammer' and 'The Teletubbies', looks more interesting and imbued with extra significance. I bet you're even watching, 'Murder She Wrote', every afternoon.

If it's any consolation, exactly the same syndrome affects teachers and lecturers who are supposed to be doing lesson plans, marking stuff, etc at home, esp when bad weather gives them impromptu days off.

I wonder if you can mow the lawn in the snow...
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 14:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hologram projection technology is called AH35
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 22:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pietro_Mercurios wrote:

Ah! Ha! Classic avoidance behaviour, which I recognise from personal experience. Exams coming up? Need to study? Suddenly anything else looks more interesting, instead. Distractions abound! Anything, from Conspiracy Theory material on the internet, to, 'Homes under The Hammer' and 'The Teletubbies', looks more interesting and imbued with extra significance. I bet you're even watching, 'Murder She Wrote', every afternoon.


Much, much worse than that........Jeremy Kyle. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12-01-2010 22:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

A piece on the Flight 77 black box flight data recorder.

http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/285492999/flt77fdr

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Pilots for 9/11 Truth has reported that the data stream from the flight data recorder (FDR) for American Airlines flight 77, which allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, shows that the cockpit door never opened during the entire 90 minute flight. The data was provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which has refused to comment.
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PostPosted: 13-01-2010 01:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfoot73 wrote:
The hologram projection technology is called AH35


This is all I can find on AH35.

http://www.dtic.mil/descriptivesum/Y2001/Army/0602712A.pdf

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PostPosted: 13-01-2010 04:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's all I've found on AH35 too, apart from passing mentions here and there.
I was expecting the usual suspects from the monstrous regiment of sceptics to turn up. i would like to think that's because we're on to something, but perhaps they are as blissfully unaware of all this as most other people seem to be.
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PostPosted: 13-01-2010 08:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfoot73 wrote:
...I was expecting the usual suspects from the monstrous regiment of sceptics to turn up. i would like to think that's because we're on to something, but perhaps they are as blissfully unaware of all this as most other people seem to be.


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