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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 05-10-2013 12:20 Post subject: |
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| OneWingedBird wrote: | | Quote: | | Maybe we should also move all this over to a dedicated Daily Mail thread? |
Or just dump the lot in with P*ss Poor Journalism and it's Disproportionate Influence.
It's like they're speaking a different language. |
With spooky Fortean timing, moved it anyway.
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titchagain Grey Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Total posts: 23 Gender: Unknown |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
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Posted: 06-10-2013 13:16 Post subject: |
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Hypocrite.
He loathes the publication so much that he wrote to the editor asking for a job as a columnist! |
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OneWingedBird Great Old One Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Total posts: 542 Location: Attice of blinkey lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 06-10-2013 13:17 Post subject: |
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Poor Daily Mail man... that is so sad... pass me a bucket and I will fill it with my tears.
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Spookdaddy Cuckoo Joined: 24 May 2006 Total posts: 3924 Location: Midwich Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-10-2013 14:05 Post subject: |
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| theyithian wrote: | | ...He loathes the publication so much that he wrote to the editor asking for a job as a columnist! |
I had to scan that three times before I stopped reading it as 'he wrote to the editor asking for a job as a communist.' |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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Posted: 06-10-2013 15:22 Post subject: |
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| Spookdaddy wrote: | | theyithian wrote: | | ...He loathes the publication so much that he wrote to the editor asking for a job as a columnist! |
I had to scan that three times before I stopped reading it as 'he wrote to the editor asking for a job as a communist.' |
Good idea, the DM having a House Communist to prove that they are equal opportunity. |
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Spookdaddy Cuckoo Joined: 24 May 2006 Total posts: 3924 Location: Midwich Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-10-2013 16:02 Post subject: |
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| ramonmercado wrote: | | ...Good idea, the DM having a House Communist to prove that they are equal opportunity. |
The world doesn't need another Daily Mail columnist of any ilk - couldn't they just adapt one they've already got? Liz Jones, for instance:
How I had to spend two weeks in bed after stubbing my toe on Trotsky's ABC of Materialist Dialectics. You think the gulags are bad - try getting a taxi on Marylebone High Street when you've just broken a fingernail pointing at class traitors. The community of freely associated individuals is all very well but yesterday I had to order sushi from someone I suspect has never owned a pony. Marx or Lenin - which suits my skin best? |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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Cochise Great Old One Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Total posts: 1104 Location: Gwynedd, Wales Age: 58 Gender: Male |
Posted: 07-10-2013 08:40 Post subject: |
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Jeez, why do I end up sort of defending things I dislike? I find the Daily Mail contradictory. hypocritical and often absurd - its emphasis on catering for femail readership seems to go hand in hand with some of the most blatant cattiness regarding women's appearance - maybe that's what women are like among themselves
But it does - sometimes - publish opposing views and it is the second most popular paper out there. In a free country, therefore, it should be left to do whatever it thinks it is doing unless it breaks any laws. |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
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Posted: 07-10-2013 15:17 Post subject: |
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It can't and shouldn't be used as a fig-leaf for the publications... ahem... less-illustrious moments, but their daring coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder/murderers was in the best spirit of crusading British journalism; their reporting was a major catalyst for the subsequent prosecution and conviction of the killers.
I don't read it, but my parents do. I think the reporting shrill, the website plebian and the tone hysterical at times, but my response is not to read or buy it, nothing more. If you truly hate every opinion expoused by the paper, then you truly hate some parts of modern Britain - they know their readership and represent their views and pander to their tastes.
The only horse in the Daily Mail/Mail on Sunday stable that I follow is Peter Hitchens (although I confess to having read Simon Heffer and Quentin Letts online with a snort of pleasure in the past). Hitchens is a great writer and highly-insightful on foreign affairs and on home matters a contrarian in the best tradition of such thinkers - although as such he'd dispute the label and the obvious attempt to group him with his late-brother. |
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Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 07-10-2013 16:10 Post subject: |
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| What is the more popular rag? |
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gncxx King-Size Canary Great Old One Joined: 25 Aug 2001 Total posts: 13561 Location: Eh? Gender: Male |
Posted: 07-10-2013 16:26 Post subject: |
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| Kondoru wrote: | | What is the more popular rag? |
The Sun, I think. |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
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Posted: 07-10-2013 16:35 Post subject: |
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The Daily Mail has a readership of marginally more than The Mail on Sunday and is easily in second place among British newspapers: a good way behind The Sun, but also comfortably ahead of The Mirror. Its website is spectacularly successful - I don't exaggerate - one of the most popular news sites on the Internet.
All print is in decline, but if you want to see disaster, check out numbers for the Guardian (down 50% on 2001) and the Independent (down 66%+ on 2001); The Spectator, The Express & Star, The Manchester Evening News & The Liverpool Echo all outsell the Independent! The New Statesman ('The Staggers') manages 25,000 - an amazing feat that it's still written and sold at all. It does rather well online, but come on, the Big Issue sells 125,000! 25,000 isn't far in excess of the Morning Star
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ChrisBoardman Great Old One Joined: 17 May 2011 Total posts: 539 Location: Alton, Hampshire Gender: Male |
Posted: 07-10-2013 16:40 Post subject: |
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To be fair, the Daily Mail newspaper is more serious than their website.
And they even have a decent sport pull out on a Sunday. |
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OneWingedBird Great Old One Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Total posts: 542 Location: Attice of blinkey lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 07-10-2013 19:07 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | their daring coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder/murderers was in the best spirit of crusading British journalism; their reporting was a major catalyst for the subsequent prosecution and conviction of the killers. |
And also single handedly stuffed the Double jeapordy rule in UK law.
Others may disagree but I don't believe that a small number of high profile convictions was worth the overall erosion of people's rights. |
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