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feen5 Don't tread on any mines Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Total posts: 1581 Age: 40 Gender: Male |
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| Quote: | | As for the pub if and when i go i find i spend all day and yes i for one get drunk,and i can never get anything else done. |
Well that says more about you than anyone else.
I think the point people are trying to make is that when we view your (sorry your groups videos) videos we have seen satellites/meteors/airplanes. And you then ask us to tell you which satellites they are. It is not up to us to tell you which satellite it is, its up to you to tell us why you think its a UFO. Its your footage, the burden of proof lies with you, not us.
I have seen enough satellites and meteors with my own eyes to recognize the same thing in your videos.
| Quote: | we have many species living along side us and still we find new species,so all is not as straightforward as we would like to think.
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There is a big difference between finding a new species on earth and finding a new species that comes from another planet and using that argument to try and prove that aliens exist and are visiting us just will not wash.
Don't get me wrong i believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe but its sad to say that there is not one scintilla of evidence for it. There is countless examples of life on earth so its only natural to assume that there will be new species that we have not found yet.
Also just to reiterate what several people have said already, we are not having a go at you, mocking your videos or trying to take the piss out of you. Its just this boy who cried wolf routine that grates. There is only so many times you can post a video that you think is strange but the rest of us see as perfectly normal, before people get bored and the mocking starts. |
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 18-11-2010 15:32 Post subject: |
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| feen5 wrote: | | Quote: | | As for the pub if and when i go i find i spend all day and yes i for one get drunk,and i can never get anything else done. |
Well that says more about you than anyone else.
I think the point people are trying to make is that when we view your (sorry your groups videos) videos we have seen satellites/meteors/airplanes. And you then ask us to tell you which satellites they are. It is not up to us to tell you which satellite it is, its up to you to tell us why you think its a UFO. Its your footage, the burden of proof lies with you, not us.
Every thing we do is not a burden,we love what we do soon.
I have seen enough satellites and meteors with my own eyes to recognize the same thing in your videos.
Thats good keep watching the skies.
| Quote: | we have many species living along side us and still we find new species,so all is not as straightforward as we would like to think.
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There is a big difference between finding a new species on earth and finding a new species that comes from another planet and using that argument to try and prove that aliens exist and are visiting us just will not wash.
Don't get me wrong i believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe but its sad to say that there is not one scintilla of evidence for it. There is countless examples of life on earth so its only natural to assume that there will be new species that we have not found yet.
yes many.
Also just to reiterate what several people have said already, we are not having a go at you, mocking your videos or trying to take the piss out of you. Its just this boy who cried wolf routine that grates. There is only so many times you can post a video that you think is strange but the rest of us see as perfectly normal, before people get bored and the mocking starts. |
Yes i agree some people can never see anything,and your right never will why this should be not sure may well be down to thinking people are taking the piss,with eyes wide open and just blind,who knows,who cares do you. |
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| feen5 Don't tread on any mines Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Total posts: 1581 Age: 40 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 18-11-2010 16:25 Post subject: |
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Well good luck to you, i give up. Its obvious that your either being deliberately vague and unreasonable to wind people up or that you really do believe that the lights you shoot are UFO's.
You seem unwillingly to even enter into a debate with anyone who says the lights are meteors/satellites (as many contributers have pointed out). And furthermore you dismiss everyone elses opinions and assume that we have never seen a meteor or satellite and therefore don't know what we are talking about.
Also in future would you at least read peoples posts and try to understand them before replying. I said
| Quote: | Its your footage, the burden of proof lies with you, not us.
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and you replied with this
| Quote: | | Every thing we do is not a burden,we love what we do soon |
What the hell does that mean? I never said what you do is a burden i said that it is up to you to prove that your videos show UFO's and not meteors/sats/planes. |
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| coaly Banned
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| Posted: 18-11-2010 17:48 Post subject: |
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Feen, most of his/her posts are extremely difficult to understand, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's not like there's no such thing as a spell checker, or patience. I give in, personally. Sometimes, it's like trying to have a reasonable debate about a photograph on ghoststudy.com! Highly unlikely!  |
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 18-11-2010 19:12 Post subject: |
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Is everyone got a day off,or are you all on holiday,any ways,As soon as we have a update,we will let you know what we want to debate soon.
There would be no point going in with all guns blazing,when we can take are time and get it done right.soon as we can,got a sky watch friday,over at east coast. |
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| coaly Banned
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| Posted: 18-11-2010 19:48 Post subject: |
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We could equally ask that of you, especially with your nocturnal pass-time!
Anyway, back to Feen's questions john. Would you care to show some respect, and reply to the post proper? |
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| gncxx King-Size Canary
Great Old One Joined: 25 Aug 2001 Total posts: 13561 Location: Eh? Gender: Male |
| Posted: 18-11-2010 20:31 Post subject: |
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I think that by this stage John has too much invested in his unusual beliefs, so that if he were proven wrong (as he seems to be just about every day on here) it would be a huge volte-face for him to say, oh yeah, you're right, those lights were only planes.
So there might be no point in arguing with him, I know this is a discussion board but some people aren't interested in that aspect of the FTMB and I think what John dearly desires is validation, which he is probably in the wrong place for judging by the reactions he gets. There you go, amateur psychology! |
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 18-11-2010 23:47 Post subject: |
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| coaly wrote: | We could equally ask that of you, especially with your nocturnal pass-time!
Anyway, back to Feen's questions john. Would you care to show some respect, and reply to the post proper? |
As i said alot to do on this sighting all in due time, |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 19-11-2010 00:08 Post subject: |
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It's getting all a bit 'local' isn't it?
By the way. I don't have a government job. And my irregular working hours see me travelling under weird moonlit nights. - And I have seen a UFO - two in fact, almost colliding which I have mentioned on this site before.
It may be only half an hour's drive home from work on an open country road but I have uncovered something.
Them dead badgers you see on the side of road. They were killed and put there to make it look like an accident. |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 20-11-2010 12:06 Post subject: |
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A quick dip around shows that for the past few years, Scotland has been chosen as a perfect test area for UAVs.
| Quote: | The extreme conditions to be found in Scotland are an ideal testing ground for the first fixed wing police trial in European aerospace.
Strathclyde Police, 2008 |
http://www.sovereign-publications.com/cyberflightuavs.htm
From the same site...
| Quote: | | During this same demonstration Cyberflight aircraft formed into a 'flight' with one aircraft at 'point’ covering the lead and one aircraft on each flank providing convoy protection. |
Would this appear as a triangular formation?
Also there's BAE's Tanaris which is essentially a black triangle UAV.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/tanaris/
From this site comes the acknowledgement there's a fair amount of testing done at Cambeltown airport in Scotland.
| Quote: | | This first flight included a take-off from Campbeltown airport in Scotland, the flight of a fully autonomous mission over Machrihanish bay and return to Campbeltown Airport with a fully autonomous landing. The autonomous flight controlled by a mission system commander, was conducted in close collaboration with the Civil Aviation Authority. |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17933 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
| Posted: 20-11-2010 16:40 Post subject: |
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| jimv1 wrote: | It's getting all a bit 'local' isn't it?
By the way. I don't have a government job. And my irregular working hours see me travelling under weird moonlit nights. - And I have seen a UFO - two in fact, almost colliding which I have mentioned on this site before.
It may be only half an hour's drive home from work on an open country road but I have uncovered something.
Them dead badgers you see on the side of road. They were killed and put there to make it look like an accident. |
Bloody farmers murdering Baggers!
Cull farmers not badgers! |
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 22-11-2010 09:47 Post subject: |
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| feen5 wrote: | | Quote: | | As for the pub if and when i go i find i spend all day and yes i for one get drunk,and i can never get anything else done. |
Well that says more about you than anyone else.
I think the point people are trying to make is that when we view your (sorry your groups videos) videos we have seen satellites/meteors/airplanes. And you then ask us to tell you which satellites they are. It is not up to us to tell you which satellite it is, its up to you to tell us why you think its a UFO. Its your footage, the burden of proof lies with you, not us.
I look for proof of UFOs that are flying above our heads yes it takes time a lot of my time,i have the links to rule out all known sats etc and links to other sites that help me in other ways,i post the footage up as soon as i can so people can view it for them self, and if they want to look into more there are links on my site for them to do so,i welcome that the more help the better.
I have seen enough satellites and meteors with my own eyes to recognize the same thing in your videos.
And now you see the vast task we have,it is so easy to say that was a sat move on nothing to see here,so we film time dates direction and take that extra step,and go look it up,
| Quote: | we have many species living along side us and still we find new species,so all is not as straightforward as we would like to think.
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There is a big difference between finding a new species on earth and finding a new species that comes from another planet and using that argument to try and prove that aliens exist and are visiting us just will not wash.
The difference is that we do not know all the species that live on earth yet,and if we look at it like space is just like earths oceans,and earths oceans cover 72% of its surface then that makes me think space is teeming with many life forms,not just living on a planet but living in space.
Don't get me wrong i believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe but its sad to say that there is not one scintilla of evidence for it. There is countless examples of life on earth so its only natural to assume that there will be new species that we have not found yet.
Also just to reiterate what several people have said already, we are not having a go at you, mocking your videos or trying to take the piss out of you. Its just this boy who cried wolf routine that grates. There is only so many times you can post a video that you think is strange but the rest of us see as perfectly normal, before people get bored and the mocking starts. |
This boy is not crying wolf,we post the videos up for all to see as we seek the real truth by research in to the objects by time dates direction and links to what it could be,you said your self you have seen many sats etc but never took another step forward to make sure it was,just accepting we go beyond that and make sure it was not a UFO,we accept that there are many things still to be discovered here on earth and much much more in space. |
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 24-11-2010 08:10 Post subject: |
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| jimv1 wrote: | A quick dip around shows that for the past few years, Scotland has been chosen as a perfect test area for UAVs.
| Quote: | The extreme conditions to be found in Scotland are an ideal testing ground for the first fixed wing police trial in European aerospace.
Strathclyde Police, 2008 |
http://www.sovereign-publications.com/cyberflightuavs.htm
From the same site...
| Quote: | | During this same demonstration Cyberflight aircraft formed into a 'flight' with one aircraft at 'point’ covering the lead and one aircraft on each flank providing convoy protection. |
Would this appear as a triangular formation?
Also there's BAE's Tanaris which is essentially a black triangle UAV.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/tanaris/
From this site comes the acknowledgement there's a fair amount of testing done at Cambeltown airport in Scotland.
| Quote: | | This first flight included a take-off from Campbeltown airport in Scotland, the flight of a fully autonomous mission over Machrihanish bay and return to Campbeltown Airport with a fully autonomous landing. The autonomous flight controlled by a mission system commander, was conducted in close collaboration with the Civil Aviation Authority. |
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Must go there soon and film this,best of all Midlothian is a good few miles from there,but got a sighting report sent to me and it is up there with the best, it took place on 15 nov 2010 AT AROUND 6AM a round 30 foot object was above trees and came right down to side of car then went in front of it then moved off faster than a jet and no sound from object,MAN THIS PLACE IS GETTING HOT RED HOT.
COULD BELOW BE A POLICE UAV GONE A STRAY LOL
Forest blast scene search complete
An examination of an area of woodland where an explosion took place has been completed.
Police said they had not declared the explosion a "terrorist incident" and the site near Loch Lomond was secure and posed no threat to the public
http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/forest_blast_scene_search_complete_1_1673594
Here is more on this
No terrorist link' to explosion near Loch Lomond
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-11829884
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| johncbdg1 Great Old One Joined: 25 May 2009 Total posts: 569 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 24-11-2010 09:04 Post subject: |
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| gncxx wrote: | I think that by this stage John has too much invested in his unusual beliefs, so that if he were proven wrong (as he seems to be just about every day on here) it would be a huge volte-face for him to say, oh yeah, you're right, those lights were only planes.
So there might be no point in arguing with him, I know this is a discussion board but some people aren't interested in that aspect of the FTMB and I think what John dearly desires is validation, which he is probably in the wrong place for judging by the reactions he gets. There you go, amateur psychology! |
Is there a time limit on how much time you can spend in here,one thing you are taking your eye of the ball worrying about how long i am in here.
Well here is me thinking i was joining a message board to post messages and footage about UFOs in and around my area and Scotland ITS OPEN TO DEBATE discussion not for arguing or foul mouthed off topic etc replys,and if you are not interested then do not post to thread,reactions validation unusual beliefs planes what are you on,John has too much invested in his unusual beliefs, one thing, you are not even amateur more like a day dreamer in psychology. |
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