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| Dr_Fu_Manchu |
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shah_aoul Grey Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Total posts: 29 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 03-06-2005 11:44 Post subject: |
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Oh, sorry are we back talking about magick again  I agree, I personally wouldn't advocate a formal syllabus. A friend of mine has recently joined the OTO (through nepotism). Now, he evangelises - I swear if he asks me one more time if I'd be interested in signing up . . . !
I suspect that degree programs have changed somewhat over the years. I can't speak for the US, but education is becoming more and more business oriented. Bums on seats = funding. How do you get more bums on seats? Lower the standard. The result? A society with an existing employment problem that becomes saturated with a bunch of unemployd graduates. This might be a bit cynical though, but i'm sure you get my point.
FYI, I'm not actually a chaos magician, well I am, sometimes. If I'd known you were, I might have written all my posts in V-Prime *L*. Well, that's not bad, that must have been at least two or three pages of ranting and arguing. Fair dues. |
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| Dr_Fu_Manchu |
| Posted: 03-06-2005 13:39 Post subject: |
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| shah_aoul Grey Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Total posts: 29 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 03-06-2005 14:06 Post subject: |
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erm . . . how about the price of fish?
I'm just curious as to where you are based. The reason I ask is that whenever I've chatted with American "occultists" (for want of a better general term) I've found a real different outlook compared to the British and (some) European approach. |
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| Dr_Fu_Manchu |
| Posted: 03-06-2005 14:35 Post subject: |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 23-06-2005 04:58 Post subject: |
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And on the note of sigil magic, I gave it a try and something is afoot. I have been in a job I don't particularly like for almost the last 4 years without hope of finding something else that remotely pays well or is worth while in applying to. I formulated a sigil and left it under something at work I then saw a job advert for something I can actually do that paid appropriately so I applied and didn't hear back for a while. Then I thought I should destroy the sigil with a bit of fire and really send it out there, I soon after got an interview which went well and am waiting for the outcome at the moment. All that said I can definately conclude with 100% certainty that they work  Well I still have to wait and see, but I think there might be something in it, maybe just a little. |
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| Dr_Fu_Manchu |
| Posted: 29-06-2005 07:10 Post subject: |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 24-07-2005 14:12 Post subject: Chaos Magick |
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| Quote: | | And on the note of sigil magic, I gave it a try and something is afoot. I have been in a job I don't particularly like for almost the last 4 years without hope of finding something else that remotely pays well or is worth while in applying to. I formulated a sigil and left it under something at work I then saw a job advert for something I can actually do that paid appropriately so I applied and didn't hear back for a while. Then I thought I should destroy the sigil with a bit of fire and really send it out there, I soon after got an interview which went well and am waiting for the outcome at the moment. All that said I can definately conclude with 100% certainty that they work Well I still have to wait and see, but I think there might be something in it, maybe just a little. |
Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless? |
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| Jack_Ramirez byzantine sea captain Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Total posts: 95 Location: london, england Gender: Male |
| Posted: 24-07-2005 16:18 Post subject: Re: Chaos Magick |
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| Astral Shores wrote: |
Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless? |
people should use it for what they want - i use sigil magick occaisionaly for purely materialist reasons, i'm not particularly interested in spirituality - and i have been described as one of the least spiritual people around (which is probably accurate)
do what thou wilt!
(though i dont agree with harming others, through any means including magick) |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 25-07-2005 02:22 Post subject: Re: Chaos Magick |
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[/quote] Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless?[/quote]
I hardly think that wanting to get out of a job I loath and into something more suited to me is material gain. If I found a job I liked I would happily take a pay cut, but then I might have to eating less but I am thin enough as it is.
The idea of waking up in the morning and looking foreward to the day is not too much to want.
BTW the sigil fizzled and I am still here.  |
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| wombat103 Great Old One Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Total posts: 465 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 25-07-2005 05:23 Post subject: Re: Curious |
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| Bilderberger wrote: | Sorry to butt in - but could you point me in the right direction to get more info. on Sigil Magic. I know nothing about it and it sounds very interesting.
Many thanks and I hope everything carries on improving for you as it has in the past.................... |
www.google.com.au/search?q=Sigil+Magic
[Emp edit: Fixing big link] |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 25-07-2005 16:09 Post subject: Re: Chaos Magick |
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| Astral Shores wrote: |
Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless? |
Magick is a very flexible tool. The only limitations that exist are the ones that you impose yourself. Material gain is as good a reason as any and ones mind is easy to focus on ones needs. If you feel you need it then use whatever you can to go for it but dont limit yourself with unnecessary spiritual rules.
http://www.waningmoon.com/darkpagan/ |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 26-07-2005 21:45 Post subject: |
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| Just to get back on topic, can we hear of other s experiance of sigals and the like |
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| coldelephant |
| Posted: 27-07-2005 12:57 Post subject: |
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I find this an interesting thread - not the usual magik stuff I see and flick past without a second glance.
I want to ask a question though.
Say for example you go through a set of proceedures in any circumstance (like a ritual, or making a cup of tea) - then is not the following true?
1) part of your mind is occupied with the routine
2) part of your mind is working out what will happen immediately after the routine
3) part of your mind is working out what will happen (long term) after the routine
If all of the above is true, would your mind (subconsciously or consciously or whichever other state / part you can think of including or excluding neurons present in intestines - yes they are there I read about them in a news article on the BBC website).... would your mind then, as a consequence, if it was likely to benefit you in the long term; then decide to follow the plan and make these circumstances come true?
I mean, it's not like it would have a guaruntee of success, but if your mind knew what was likely to happen if....and then...and if it did this....and then that happened....so it does this....
What do you think? |
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| Jack_Ramirez byzantine sea captain Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Total posts: 95 Location: london, england Gender: Male |
| Posted: 09-08-2005 14:14 Post subject: |
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| coldelephant wrote: |
What do you think? |
i think you could be right, it could just be connected to the power of positive thinking  the fact is for me, it appears to work mostly, and it's the results that count
it's an interesting question though |
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