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PostPosted: 06-12-2001 22:41    Post subject: FUTURE CONTACT BY COMPUTER. Reply with quote

Does anyone remember the Fortean Times story,presented by Lionel Fanthorpe on the television series,about an alleged three-way communication between a future computer operator,a person from the past,trained to use one and a couple from our time?
If you have noticed this story in the archives while researching something else,I'd appreciate a steer towards it,please?
I'm doing some research.
Best wishes,Bob.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 07-12-2001 11:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the same story covered on "Mysteries with Carol Vorderman"? I have very vague recollections of this, if I remember correctly a man from the 17th Century had found a "box of lights" and was communicating with a British couple in the 1980s (?) The future communicants, I *think* called themselves something like "The Tachyons".

I remember at the type thinking it was utterly ridiculous and totally unconvincing (and I'm speaking as someone who sleeps with the lights on after the X-Files), especially the bit where 17th Century man had a bit of a love-in with 80's woman. It was investigated by the Society for Psychical Research, who thought it was a fake but couldn't say how it was done. The programme also featured an academic who specialised in 17th Century English, she thought the language, grammar etc was incorrect for the period.

I don't have any links or other info, I'm afraid, just my hazy old memory.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 07-12-2001 11:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is the same case, the language experts also found that the man who lived in the house was likely to be the culprit.

Whether he was having a laugh, trying to scare his partner or genuinely thought he was communicating with the past/future, I don't know.

Smile
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 07-12-2001 17:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hazily remember this as well - didn't somebody discover that the plot had been lifted from a pulp British SF novel?
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 07-12-2001 18:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow - I saw that on TV years ago and had forgotten about it until it was mentioned here.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 07-12-2001 18:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book is called The Vertical Plane, by Ken Webster. I'm not sure it's still in print, but a search of most Fortean book vendors will probably turn you up a copy.
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PostPosted: 08-12-2001 22:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book stands up far better than the TV dramatisation (for that's what it was).

I think the messages from the 'future' were from a group calling themselves 2109 or something similar. There were others too. There was poltergiest phenomena also.

I actually think it's an interesting story, but as far as research goes, apart from the aforementioned book, there's almost nothing else to go on.
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PostPosted: 08-12-2001 23:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember this one. The fella from the past was called Tomas. The computer they had was a crappy BBC Micro, and had no modem or anything.

As well as computer stuff, there was writing appearing on the wall and floors, which makes me think it was more poltergeisty than time travelling computer shenanigans. Although it seems daft to apply logic to such weird concepts, wouldn't it make more sense for poltergeists to muck around with a computer, than time-travellers confined to a computer to somehow manage to write on a wall with chalk?

However, wasn't it proven that the writing was just a crappy copy of medaevil writing by an expert? And wasn't it a case of everything happening to the family involved, with phenomena happening when the researchers weren't looking?

I remember thinking at the time it was a bit Jef-the-talking-mongoose-esque.
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PostPosted: 08-12-2001 23:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilsprout wrote:

And wasn't it a case of everything happening to the family involved, with phenomena happening when the researchers weren't looking?


Isn't that always the case?

Ken Webster wrote an article about his experiences since his book was published (including the making of that TV 'reconstruction') for FT back in 1998, a small part of which is here -

http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/108_para.shtml

Annoyingly, I don't have that issue to hand at the moment, so the rest is confined within my ultra-unreliable memory banks... which is where I shall leave it for now. Wink
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PostPosted: 09-12-2001 04:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one of interest:

http://www.artbell.com/letters14.html
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 29-07-2002 18:36    Post subject: Ghosts and Computers? Reply with quote

I apologize if this subject has come up before, but im kind of new here. I started a thread on this matter over at shadowlands some time back but did not get too much info- whch came as a suprise. Has any people here
ever experienced or heard of people experience messages typed onto their pc by a unknown force? It just seems odd to me that ghosts seem to be capable of moving heavy objects and thowing them, touching people etc. You would think that in this age of the computer there would be far more reports of this? After all imagine all the people who die evrey day who were, when alive, using pcs on a dailey basis- would it not be a more obvious way to communicate? The only case i have heard of is "messages" appearing on some guys screen but it was just double dutch! Thankyou in advance for any responces. X
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 29-07-2002 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's the Welsh monk story - threads here and here. And there was another incident mentionned somewhere but other posters will probably know more about that.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 29-07-2002 18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, what i said above sounded wrong. What i meant in the part about ghosts being able to throw things and touch people...it just seems odd how they seem capable of this activity yet you dont hear much about them doing something that would surely be a better way of communication like typing?
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PostPosted: 29-07-2002 19:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank Pinklefish in the "Ghost" forum for this link:

http://www.worlditc.org/

It talks computer, phone, fax -- you name it!

TVgeek
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PostPosted: 29-07-2002 21:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a case from the 1980s (with a much more basic home computer) where a couple started receiving messages from a 'ghost'. It was aparently of a man and he was a bit miffed that the couple were living together out of wedlock Wink I can't for the life of me remember much more about it, but I think the'ghost' in question was of a man from the Elizabethan period.
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