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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 02-09-2011 18:07 Post subject: |
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| So you don't think - in the propaganda war that exists between Al Q and the US - that Al Q wouldn't try to claw some points back by pointing out that OBL had died at some earlier time? Surely it would be a chance to point out the lies and propaganda of the 'crusaders'? |
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Posted: 02-09-2011 19:02 Post subject: |
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| Jerry_B wrote: | | So you don't think - in the propaganda war that exists between Al Q and the US - that Al Q wouldn't try to claw some points back by pointing out that OBL had died at some earlier time? Surely it would be a chance to point out the lies and propaganda of the 'crusaders'? |
There's definitely a propaganda war going on. But, that's all we really know. |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 03-09-2011 15:35 Post subject: |
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| Okay, but if that's so isn't Al Q being somewhat quiet if OBL didn't die at the time stated by the US? |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-09-2011 12:47 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | My point is that there a great many people out there in whose interest it would be to disprove the American claims of Bin Laden's death.
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how can we disprove this without access to the relevent data to do that ?
a body ??????????
dna samples sent to a NON US laboratory maybe
all of which we don't and won't have access too now |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-09-2011 12:51 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | So you don't think - in the propaganda war that exists between Al Q and the US - that Al Q wouldn't try to claw some points back by pointing out that OBL had died at some earlier time? Surely it would be a chance to point out the lies and propaganda of the 'crusaders'?
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can the witness please stop sumizing again please m'lud
we want facts |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-09-2011 12:53 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Okay, but if that's so isn't Al Q being somewhat quiet if OBL didn't die at the time stated by the US?
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there could well be loads of reasons only known to them why, stop trying to second guess what AQ do in your opinion and look at what we can see and prove |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-09-2011 12:56 Post subject: |
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Do we have any incontravertable evidence that
1. the chap killed was Bin Laden
2. That Bin Laden was even alive past 2004/2006 ? |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 07-09-2011 00:22 Post subject: |
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| Jon, my posts were merely wondering out loud about a few points raised by the various aspects of the story. To me they're rather obvious questions. |
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Posted: 07-09-2011 01:07 Post subject: |
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| What were those flying saucer pilots thinking? |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 07-09-2011 12:56 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Jon, my posts were merely wondering out loud about a few points raised by the various aspects of the story. To me they're rather obvious questions.
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they do not prove anything Jerry, we need to examine what we can see and feel so to speak.
at present we have
take our word for it, it was Bin Laden
we don't have a video after the 2004 release that has not been raised eyebrows at !
Why AQ would say or do anything is speculative at best.
Hey its even posible he's alive still and being protected somewhere. |
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Posted: 07-09-2011 13:01 Post subject: |
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| Pietro_Mercurios wrote: | | What were those flying saucer pilots thinking? |
Its time to get home to the Mothership for the coffee break. |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 07-09-2011 13:06 Post subject: |
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| Jonfairway wrote: | | they do not prove anything Jerry, we need to examine what we can see and feel so to speak. |
I know that they don't prove anything. They're just questions - not speculation. I'm not trying to make out that any given story is correct, but wondering about the reactions (or lack of) after the event in May. |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 07-09-2011 13:19 Post subject: |
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proof as follows
picture proof ( not released )
DNA evidence ( had results in less than 24 hours, 99.9% ) it takes longer and could not from sister DNA be 99% accurate
wife called his name, ( hearsay ) |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 11-09-2011 12:11 Post subject: |
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| But one wonders if that would actually be enough proof for some people. After all, corpses can seem dissimilar to the living person (especially if there are gunshot wounds to the head). (That said, when the Russians released photos of dead Chechen seperatist leaders, they were not widely questioned AFAIK). Others might also say that DNA evidence was fabricated. Not that I'm saying anyone here would have such views, just that from previous experience it's rather tricky proving anything to those of a conspiratorial bent. This is why I tend to hark back to the reasons why there have been no contradictory statments from OBL's supporters/successors claiming that either (a) OBL died at some earlier date or that (b) he wasn't killed in the recent US raid. |
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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 12-09-2011 12:53 Post subject: |
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| you could have a point Jerry some people will never be convinced, they have not been very helpful though with leaving some evidence un-shown that I think 99% would be happy with. |
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