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PostPosted: 11-10-2011 20:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it true that various people on both 'sides' have been claiming OBL was dead for years? It was said he was in the final stages of kidney failure back in 2001, and if that was ever true I think it's pretty unlikely he was still alive to be taken out by the US ten years later.

There's also all those dubious vids of variously dissimilar OBLs that have been circulated. Has there been any verified footage of the real man in recent years?

Also, when claiming Al Q would deny he had been killed if he hadn't been, aren't we falling into the trap of believing the image of Al Q portrayed in the media? Remember that according to many there never was an organisation called Al Q in the sense we have all been trained to understand. That Al Q was never more than a vague concept, a name without substance. The idea of an administrative structure with leaders and hierarchy and an agenda might well be nothing more than our equivalent of the Goldstein myth. In which case probably very few of its 'members' would have much more a clue if OBL was alive or dead than we do here.
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PostPosted: 06-03-2012 14:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was Osama Bin Laden Really Buried At Sea? WikiLeaks Emails Suggest Al Qaeda Chief's Body Was Flown To US Military Mortuary

Osama Bin Laden was apparently buried in the waters of the north Arabian sea, but internal emails from intelligence service Stratfor, obtained by hacker group Anonymous and posted by WikiLeaks suggest otherwise.

According to official accounts, he was wrapped in a sheet and "eased" off the decks of the U.S.S Carl Vinson just hours after he was killed in a United States-led operation, in accordance with Muslim tradition.

But a leaked email from Stratfor vice president for intelligence Fred Burton, sent on 2 May 2011, at 5.26am states: A subsequent email on the same day at 5.51am states: US forces said Bin Laden was killed in a siege at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on 2 May 2011, just after 1am local time.

At 6.26am Burton wrote: The Tribe did the same thing with the Nazi's ashes. We would want to photograph, DNA, fingerprint, etc.

"His body is a crime scene and I don't see the FBI nor DOJ letting that happen."

The reference to Eichmann regards the cremation of the Nazi's body following his capture, trial and execution, in order to prevent any memorial or shrine being built.

Stratfor CEO George Friedman appears to agree, noting: "Eichmann was seen alive for many months on trial before being sentenced to death and executed. No comparison with suddenly burying him at sea without any chance to view him which I doubt happened."

By 1.36pm Burton writes again: The conversation takes a puzzling turn at 3.11pm, with Burton stating: A note adds: "It seems to me that by dropping the corpse in the ocean, the body will come back to haunt us… gotta be violating some sort of obscure heathen religious rule that will inflame islam? The US Govt needs to make body pics available like the MX's do, with OBL's pants pulled down, to shout down the lunatics like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck."

The exchange casts a mystery over just what happened to the body of the Al Qaeda leader.

The New American reports: "The release of the Stratfor emails will likely revive the debate over just what happened to bin Laden's body and consequently, whether or not US forces actually killed the terrorist mastermind in the first place.

"Secrecy prior to the raid is understandable; a refusal to produce the key piece of evidence that the raid was successful, on the other hand, is quite curious indeed.

According to White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, a member of the military "read prepared religious remarks" that were translated into Arabic at the burial ceremony.

The lair where bin Laden lived in secrecy before the alleged final stand off with US Commandoes Bin Laden moved into the three-storey house in 2005 and lived there until it was stormed by Navy Seals in May 2011.

The house was located just half a mile from one of Pakistan's top army training academies, which caused embarrassment for the country's intelligence services, AP reported.

US officials say there was no evidence senior Pakistan officials were aware of bin Laden's location.

Residents living nearby told the Independent they had thought the building would be turned intomosque, school or clinic.

Shah Mohammad said: "I think they should build a mosque. If you build a school there, people will just associate it with bin Laden."

A source had told the paper demolition was on the cards ahead of the event, adding: "There is an issue, in our culture, of such places becoming shrines."


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PostPosted: 06-03-2012 15:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should demolish the compound and build a public lavatory and waste disposal centre on the site.
And of course, people will forever associate the name of Bin Laden with 'full bins'.
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PostPosted: 06-03-2012 23:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

ted_bloody_maul wrote:
Was Osama Bin Laden Really Buried At Sea? WikiLeaks Emails Suggest Al Qaeda Chief's Body Was Flown To US Military Mortuary

Reporting on speculation Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12-03-2012 13:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

would have been pretty smelly having been dead since 2002 !
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PostPosted: 12-03-2012 13:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonfairway wrote:
would have been pretty smelly having been dead since 2002 !


He could have been a zombie.

Great B movie: Seals fight Islamic Fundamentalist Zombie and his dog Djinn tin tin.
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PostPosted: 14-03-2012 13:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah there is that posibilty Smile

could have been a clone, or a android too
or even a lizard
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PostPosted: 14-03-2012 13:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they killed the lookalike who played him in all those videos. Would be a good way of keeping him quiet.
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PostPosted: 14-03-2012 13:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

ted_bloody_maul wrote:
Maybe they killed the lookalike who played him in all those videos. Would be a good way of keeping him quiet.

There was more than one lookalike, including the short fat one and the far too old, skinny one.

No wonder they went over to taping old Dead Ringers out takes.


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PostPosted: 14-03-2012 13:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pietro_Mercurios wrote:
ted_bloody_maul wrote:
Maybe they killed the lookalike who played him in all those videos. Would be a good way of keeping him quiet.

There was more than one lookalike, including the little fat one and the far too old, skinny one.

No wonder they went over too taping old Dead Ringers out takes.


I blame fad dieting.
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PostPosted: 15-03-2012 13:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

hate to rain on the parade, but not of the lookalikes looked like they should look like.
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