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Posted: 15-10-2003 19:48 Post subject: No Pix

I've scouted a bit for the pix but so far can't spot any.

Posted: 31-10-2003 09:07 Post subject:

Drawn a blank here too - there are lots of opportunities to pay for her book full of them, though roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Posted: 31-10-2003 16:12 Post subject: Victoriana Redux

I'm thinking this is an updating of the Victorian passion for spirit or ghost pictures, which were faked with enthusiasm.

Posted: 01-11-2003 15:38 Post subject:

I thought the Freemasons had her killed?

Very Happy

Posted: 01-11-2003 16:38 Post subject: Freeloading Freemasons

Nah, they just take credit.

Posted: 01-11-2003 18:21 Post subject:

If you want to believe the Freemasons, they pretty much had everyone from Woodrow Wilson to Mother Theresa killed.

Maybe they did. But how can you take people seriously when they shake hands in such a silly manner and spend all night with their trouser legs rolled up?

Posted: 01-11-2003 18:31 Post subject: Masonic Temptation

The Masons are silly at the level you cite. At core, though, there may be a small cadre of actual esoteric soldiers promoting an agenda we can but guess at.

And then again, it could all be hooey. lol

Unless and until it affects your life directly, why worry?

Posted: 18-03-2007 14:19 Post subject:

Posted: 18-03-2007 19:13 Post subject:

I think we can trust Philippe Mora, after all, he gave us The Howling II and III Laughing

Posted: 18-03-2007 20:14 Post subject:

Posted: 22-03-2007 01:30 Post subject:

When I first heard speculations nearly 40 years ago that Marilyn Monroe had been murdered I thought it was one of the most sophomoric and silly conspiracy theories I'd ever heard.

But I was apparently wrong. There is a great deal of evidence that Norma Jean Baker's death was highly suspicious and that her death was in no way a voluntary action.

But nevertheless I was forced to vote "don't know," because I was given no other positive choice than blaming specific individuals or organizations.

Posted: 03-08-2012 10:24 Post subject:

Marilyn Monroe mystery: Where are her FBI files?
As the 50th anniversary of her death approaches, there is a growing mystery over the FBI files on Marilyn Monroe.
4:26PM BST 02 Aug 2012

It's fifty years on Sunday since Marilyn Monroe died at the age of 36.
Like many of the stars of her era, Monroe's movements, relationships and comments weren't just devoured by fans - they were followed closely by the FBI.
Records kept on Monroe, many of which were filed under "Foreign Counterintelligence," have intrigued many who have sought to learn more about the film star, including those who investigated her death.

In connection with the anniversary of Monroe's death on August 5th, The Associated Press has attempted under the Freedom of Information Act to obtain the most complete record of the bureau's monitoring of Monroe.

Nearly nine months later - after several requests and an appeal - obtaining a more complete record of how the FBI investigated Monroe in the months before she died have been stymied by an effort to simply find the files.

The FBI says it no longer has the files it compiled on Monroe; the National Archives - the usual destination for such material - says it doesn't have them either.
Finding out precisely when the records were moved - as the FBI says has happened - required the filing of yet another, still-pending Freedom of Information Act request. Rolling Eyes

The most recent version of the files, all heavily redacted, is publicly available on the bureau's website, The Vault, which periodically posts FBI records on celebrities, government officials, spies and criminals.

The AP appealed the FBI's continued censorship of its Monroe files, noting the agency has not given "any legal or factual analysis of the foreseeable harm that might result from the release of the full records."

Monroe's star power and fears she might be recruited by the Communist Party during the tenure of longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover led to reports being taken on her activities and relationships, including her marriage to playwright Arthur Miller.

Monroe's file begins in 1955 and mostly focuses on her travels and associations, searching for signs of leftist views and possible ties to communism. The file continues up until the months before her death, and also includes several news stories and references to Norman Mailer's biography of the actress, which focused on questions about whether Monroe was killed by the government.

There have been two major government investigations into Monroe's demise - the original inquiry immediately after her death and another effort by the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office in 1982. The second inquiry, released in December 1982, reviewed all files available investigative reports, including files compiled by the FBI on her death. The records, the DA's office noted, were "heavily censored."

That mention intrigued the man who performed Monroe's autopsy, Dr. Thomas Noguchi. While the DA investigation concluded he conducted a thorough autopsy, Noguchi has conceded that no one will likely ever know all the details of Monroe's death. The FBI files and confidential interviews conducted with the actress' friends that have never been made public might help, he wrote in his 1983 memoir "Coroner."

"On the basis of my own involvement in the case, beginning with the autopsy, I would call Monroe's suicide `very probable,'" Noguchi wrote. "But I also believe that until the complete FBI files are made public and the notes and interviews of the suicide panel released, controversy will continue to swirl around her death."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/9447324/Marilyn-Monroe-mystery-Where-are-her-FBI-files.html

Posted: 09-06-2013 23:53 Post subject:

Posted: 10-06-2013 19:41 Post subject:

In the James Ellroy novel American Tabloid the story linking Marilyn with the Kennedys has been invented to discredit them, as far as I can recall (ages since I read it). Seemed quite convincing as a theory, that.

Posted: 08-10-2013 21:28 Post subject:

Of possible interest in adding evidence for the notion Marilyn might have been 'coming apart' in her final months ...