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PostPosted: 21-11-2005 23:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

I turned on half way through - which is an unfortunate occurrence that's dogged me throughout this series. What I saw was Snagsby and Miss Flite were out and remarking on a greasy soot that was falling in the area, I think they also said it had an odd smell too. Guppy finds Krooks body and, if I'm not mistaken, the body still had a small blue flame. The coroner's court put it down to SHC which was caused by Krook's liquid diet.

I was particularly gutted to not see all of this episode as I was curious to see how this was handled myself.
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PostPosted: 22-11-2005 08:19    Post subject: Fire Poltergeists Reply with quote

[quote="intaglioreally"] "I wonder if SHC has anything to do with Polt activity? Could those who suffer it have experienced poltergeist phenomena when teenaged?" [/quote]

The enigma of the "Fire Poltergeist" seems to have been with us for centuries. I personally consider Fire Poltergeists so closely related to Spontaneous Human Cremations/Combustions that I keep FP and SHC accounts together in the same file.

The most interesting case transpired in a suburb of Paris, France, in 1907 (if memory serves). Fire danced back and forth between TWO houses for approximately a week, pretty much leaving both buildings calcined wrecks. While the houses were nearest neighbors there was quite a considerable yardage between them.
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PostPosted: 27-11-2005 17:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

womaniac wrote:
I turned on half way through - which is an unfortunate occurrence that's dogged me throughout this series. What I saw was Snagsby and Miss Flite were out and remarking on a greasy soot that was falling in the area, I think they also said it had an odd smell too. Guppy finds Krooks body and, if I'm not mistaken, the body still had a small blue flame. The coroner's court put it down to SHC which was caused by Krook's liquid diet.

I was particularly gutted to not see all of this episode as I was curious to see how this was handled myself.


The Bleak House repeat (which I assume will include this) is on tonight at 5.45.
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PostPosted: 04-05-2006 20:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

A possible?

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Thursday, May 04, 2006

Fiery death still a mystery

By DIANA WIRES, dwires@tmnews.com
Tuesday, May 2, 2006 12:04 PM CDT

BEDFORD - Authorities still do not know what caused the death of Mary Jean Endris, who was found in bed after a fire at her home Sunday.

“It may be two to three weeks before we make a determination,” said Lawrence County Coroner John Sherrill.

He wants to get the fire inspector's report, police report and toxicology tests before making a final determination of why Endris, 61, 1820 G St., died.

Foul play has not been ruled out.

The Bedford Fire Department would not comment about the case because it remains under investigation by the Bedford Police Department. No one from the police department was available to comment on the case this morning. Several officers were unavailable because of Election Day.

Firefighters were alerted to a fire at Endris' home at 7:05 a.m. Sunday, and firefighters soon found her body on a bed in the bedroom.
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She was identified Monday using dental records.

The fire was contained to that bedroom and an adjacent family room.

“It's very hard to comprehend because the house looks fine from the outside,” Sherrill said.


www.tmnews.com/articles/2006/05/02/sections/news/news22.txt
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PostPosted: 24-05-2006 19:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was added to the TV reminders but I thought I'd drop more details in here:

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Inside Spontaneous Human Combustion

MONDAY 29th MAY, 22:00-23:00

Bruce Dickinson experiments with fire, chemicals and animal carcasses to investigate the phenomenon that has killed more than 200 people in the past 300 years


Bruce Dickinson???

I was watching the trailers and he seems... enthusiastic but all those years of running up and down in tight spandex will do that to a man Wink
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PostPosted: 25-05-2006 14:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mighty_Emperor wrote:


Bruce Dickinson???

I was watching the trailers and he seems... enthusiastic but all those years of running up and down in tight spandex will do that to a man Wink


..and fencing, don't forget all that fencing!
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PostPosted: 25-05-2006 14:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creamstick1 wrote:
Mighty_Emperor wrote:
Bruce Dickinson???

I was watching the trailers and he seems... enthusiastic but all those years of running up and down in tight spandex will do that to a man Wink

..and fencing, don't forget all that fencing!
..and of course, his part time job as pilot officer for the airline Astraeus. Busy chap!
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PostPosted: 25-05-2006 16:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget his collection of codpieces. Wink
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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 02:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

*I'm* gonna combust in a minute if you don't shut up... Wink
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PostPosted: 17-08-2006 12:33    Post subject: Potential Spontaneous Human Combustion Case? Reply with quote

I came across this story in the newspaper the other day and wondered if it might potentially be a case of Spontaneous Human Combustion?
The first story below tells how a 47 yr old woman who lived alone was found dead, but the second says that she died of "accidental burns", from a fire for which investigators could find no cause. It seems odd to me that there was no mention of the fire damaging her house. Other than the missing charred body (or remaining foot etc), this sounds a lot like a classic SHC case to me, and I was just curious what others thought about it. I have seen no further media reports on the case since then.

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3761643a11aT,00.html

Police name dead Hamilton woman
11 August 2006

Police have named the 47-year-old woman found dead in her Hamilton home this week.


Caroline Mary Jeans was discovered in her Nawton house on Monday.

Ms Jeans, who lived alone, was last seen alive on Friday.

Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Page said the investigation into Ms Jeans' death was continuing, with police and ESR scientists examining her property.

"We are not actively seeking anyone else at this stage in relation to the death," Mr Page said.

"The scene examination will help us determine the inquiries we have to make to establish the course of events that led to Ms Jeans' death."

Mr Page refused to say what forensic tests were being done. There were "a number of things we have yet to sort out and a number of issues we have yet to resolve".

Police expect to be at the house for at least another day.

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10395733


4.25pm Friday August 11, 2006


The Hamilton woman found dead in her home earlier this week died from accidental burns, say police.

Caroline Mary Jeans, 47, a part-time kitchen hand who lived alone in Baverstock Road, in the Hamilton suburb of Nawton, was found on Monday.

Hamilton police said they were satisfied she did not kill herself and no one else was involved in her death.

Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Page she had burns from an accidental fire in her home but they were not sure how the fire began.

"We are satisfied no one else was involved. She died as a result of burns and police are treating it as accidental," he said.

He said they were still trying to find the cause of the fire.

"We are still working through that. That is one of the issues for us."

He said the police examination of the house was due to finish today.

- NZPA
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PostPosted: 20-10-2006 12:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found a nice article about SHC in the Journal of Forensic Medicine. Can't remember if I've already mentioned it.

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Spontaneous human combustion: a sometimes incomprehensible phenomenon
S. Gromb, X. Lavigne, G. Kerautret, N. Grosleron-Gros and P. Dabadie

Central Teaching University Hospital, Pellegrin, Bordeaux, France

Available online 26 March 2002.

Several cases of human combustion, the cause of which was not evident, have been described over the last few centuries. There are three intriguing elements to such cases. Firstly, although the body is destroyed, the immediate surroundings are left almost intact. Secondly, there is often no visible source of heat that might have started the fire. Thirdly, sometimes bodies are not completely destroyed, certain parts being perfectly preserved, adjacent to others that are reduced to a state of ashes.


It's in PDF form so I can't copy/paste it but I'm sure we can all read it if we want to. Wink
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PostPosted: 23-10-2006 05:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recurring bit about the flames coming from the abdomen got me thinking, and I checked to see what the corresponding chakra was there. It's the manipura which, funnily enough, has fire as its associated element. Razz
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PostPosted: 06-11-2006 23:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard this today. It happened to a workmate of someone I know very well and trust. This person has known the workmate for 30 years and trusts him too. The workmate, Bloke A, has just had 3 months off work with burns.

A, who is 51 and sporty, was on a British beach in the summer with a group of friends. It was evening and he was wearing jeans. They were having a barbecue.

Suddenly, A screamed that his leg was burning. It felt as if it was on fire. One of his mates bodily grabbed him, carried him to the sea and chucked him in. A couple of blokes then dragged his jeans off.

The skin of his entire leg came away with the jeans, which were not burned or damaged in any way.

The burn was so deep that A needed skin grafts. If he had not been helped so quickly, it seems that he may have died.

How did this happen?

There was barbecue lighting fluid present, although A says he had no contact with it.
No flames or smoke were seen by him or anyone else, and as I mentioned, the jeans were undamaged. That is, they were not singed - one leg of the jeans did have all the skin off one leg stuck to the inside where it sloughed off.

A reckons this was some kind of bizarre barbecue accident. But how could his leg catch fire inside his jeans, which remained intact? He himself is baffled by this.

I wonder if A can be persuaded to describe his experience to a paranormal investigator. Wink
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PostPosted: 07-11-2006 00:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

The undamaged fabric could, I suppose, have acted as a wick*. Bright sunlight may have made a flame invisible. If he hadn't come near the fuel, could there have been some solvent on the fabric already? Just guessing. Confused

*I know the wick-effect usually evoked in SHC cases is a long burning thing which involves the body-fats of the victim. I'm thinking of a flame playing over the surface of this man's jeans with some kind of fuel on the surface.
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PostPosted: 07-11-2006 09:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the inside of a pair of jeans, though. And just the one leg.

Wonder what happened to the jeans? How tactless would it be to ask to see them, d'you think... Wink
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