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PostPosted: 28-02-2008 21:28    Post subject: 'Flaming Torch' Cyclist Seriously Burnt Reply with quote

Does this sound like a potential SHC experience with an equaly odd explanation given for it?

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A cyclist who suffered second degree burns while riding may have been pedalling so hard his trousers caught fire.
Mieczyslaw Jasinski was described as a "human torch" by stunned witnesses in Poland.

55-year-old told doctors how he smelt burning while enjoying a ride and looked down to see his trousers in flames.

Mieczyslaw said he jumped off the bike and rolled on the ground to try and extinguish the fire.

But he still suffered second degree burns to his legs, back and stomach.

Passers-by found him lying on the side of the road in Koroszczyn.

The tattered remains of his trousers were still smoking and he was groaning in pain.

A police spokesman said: "Witnesses said he was like a flaming torch cycling along the road.

"We do not know how it happened but we have heard that it could have been caused by a reaction between friction as he cycled, sweat and the material of his trousers."


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PostPosted: 29-02-2008 08:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very odd explanation. IMHO it's just as likely that a passing motorist threw a "dog end" out of the window, which nestled snugly in his lap (happened to me once on my motorbike).
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PostPosted: 29-02-2008 08:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds really quite a plausible cause. A passing car, flicked cig stub, dodgy man-made fibre trousers (the "material of his trousers does get a mention in the report)...and wumpf.

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PostPosted: 29-12-2008 21:51    Post subject: Spontaneous Human Combustion Reply with quote

I've been reading the posts on this topic and found some of the possible explanations interesting. A number of researches often rule out the wick effect, even though they tried to explain it in a BBC programme around 10 years ago.

I always believed the case in Ebbw Vale in 1980 was a classic example of the wick effect until I read John Heymer's book The Entrancing Flame. As mentioned in an older post on this topic, John Heymer said that victim Henry Thomas's ashes were "as white as blackboard chalk".

I wonder if some kind of "self-destruct" mechanism can result in SHC, possibly caused when a person is lonely and/or depressed. Henry Thomas's wife had died and of course many other SHC victims were elderly and has lost a spouse.

I'm sure the QED programme around 10 years ago showed a photo of Henry Thomas's remains by his fire, but I've never seen it anywhere else.
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PostPosted: 30-12-2008 14:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

shouldn't we be seeing an unduly high number of SHC cases associated with psychiatric units, in that case?
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PostPosted: 31-12-2008 00:16    Post subject: Spotaneous Human Combustion Reply with quote

This is an interesting point about psychiatric units. But perhaps the patients, due to being on medication, do not feel as depressed. There have been one or two cases of hospital patients being SHC victims, though -they are mention in an earlier post.
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PostPosted: 31-12-2008 00:36    Post subject: Re: Spontaneous Human Combustion Reply with quote

Matt_19710 wrote:

I'm sure the QED programme around 10 years ago showed a photo of Henry Thomas's remains by his fire, but I've never seen it anywhere else.

I think this is it...
http://www.horrormagazine.it/imgbank/IMG/i_resti_di_henry_thomas.nb.jpg
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PostPosted: 01-01-2009 21:52    Post subject: Spotaneous Human Combustion Reply with quote

Cheers for the picture. I've seen this in John Heymer's book - this is actually a drawing he made. I could be imagining things, but I'm sure I saw the actual photo on QED because I seem to remember the television with the melted knobs appearing in the picture.
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PostPosted: 21-02-2010 23:41    Post subject: Spontaneous Human Combustion Reply with quote

Hi all,

just wondering if anyone's noticed recent reports of SHC. Whenever I read about the subject, the stills all seem to be from the classic reports of the 80s.

Is it still going on, or are most cases explained using modern technology?
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PostPosted: 22-02-2010 02:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi This is what we know so far.

link removed as threads merged - stu
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PostPosted: 20-08-2010 05:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good article on the subject here:

http://cogitz.com/2009/09/06/spontaneous-human-combustion/

But think twice before you enlarge the photos... Shocked
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PostPosted: 22-08-2010 18:31    Post subject: Re: Spotaneous Human Combustion Reply with quote

Matt_19710 wrote:
This is an interesting point about psychiatric units. But perhaps the patients, due to being on medication, do not feel as depressed. There have been one or two cases of hospital patients being SHC victims, though -they are mention in an earlier post.


I last nursed over ten years ago, but remember my times on the psychiatric wards....

A lot of the patients smoked in those days & would often keep their dog ends, to reuse. There were any number of fires due to this, most patients keeping a "baccy tin" of dog ends & shredded "baccy". If they failed to put out a dog end properly, a "baccy tin" became a incendiary time bomb, especially if left in a jacket or dressing gown pocket, on a rack of clothing.... so I can imagine that any number of SHC's in psychiatric wards might be due to this cause. Especially, if the patient is on heavy medication & sleeps through the initial smoulder!!!!
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PostPosted: 22-08-2010 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

I´ve now twice been dumb enough to have a battery in the same pocket as my keys. The short circuit created enough heat to hurt me. Anyone know if it could actually cause enough heat to set fire to clothes?
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PostPosted: 22-08-2010 22:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xanatic_ wrote:
I´ve now twice been dumb enough to have a battery in the same pocket as my keys. The short circuit created enough heat to hurt me. Anyone know if it could actually cause enough heat to set fire to clothes?


You can start a fire by mixing batteries and steel wool, so it wouldn't surprise me.
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PostPosted: 23-08-2010 00:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steel wool is thinner though, meaning more resistance and heat. I guess it does mean it could happen.
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