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PostPosted: 15-04-2013 14:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he got a substantial amount in compensation,not that it's much consolation in a trial by media.
Unless you have the murder book,or have the trial transcript,opinions are just that,opinions, interesting sometimes,but worthless in securing a safe conviction.
I wouldn't defend the murderer John Cannan,but after he was taken into police custody,his criminal record was published in a Sunday tabloid.
It's this contempt for sub judice that makes the media industry so dangerous.
The wiki page on miscarriages of justice is a lengthy read when it comes to the UK, I'm conflicted on whether it is an indictment or a commendation of our criminal justice system.
I'm always concerned when it comes to murders that have a massive media profile, the pressure on the police to get a 'result' must be intense.
What still riles me Mad is the arrest of supposed 'anarchists' prior to the wedding of William and Catherine, I heard last week they were compensated for this, which is the local police commissioner fearing losing their job over any incident during the wedding and covering themselves by arresting potential troublemakers,the taxpayer having to fork out for compensation,but hey! they get to keep their job!
Security of position,career advancement and self interest,the absolute bane of Britain from the management sector.
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PostPosted: 15-04-2013 15:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the ITV real crime episode about John Cannan and his likely involvement in the Suzy Lamplugh murder, the coincidences are remarkable. Given he is doing life for another murder, then those coincidences would be enough to convince anyone he is guilty.

The evidence against Levi Bellfield in the Millie Dowler murder would not normally be enough for a conviction, but given he is serving life w/o parole for 2 other murders then we are all convinced he did it.
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PostPosted: 16-04-2013 10:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that the Mr Kipper thing? I really should keep books,but I always think with the internet it's all on there, although increasingly I find websites are quoting 'extracts' and if you want to read more ,you have to buy the book! Rolling Eyes
From memory,a witness at the house for sale described someone matching Cannans description, but I missed the ITV doc, I would like to find out more about this.
Bellfield, other than the news I haven't read up on, obviously he deserves to be in prison for life,but it must be a concern that potentially another murderer may be walking about free.
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PostPosted: 20-04-2013 12:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a book Somebody's Husband,Somebody's Son by Gordon Burn in a charity shop the other day.It's a Yorkshire ripper book I've been looking for a while now.
It struck me halfway book that because of Google images, I could find, without too much searching, the places mentioned in the book, so that has added another dimension to reading books.
So this thread gave me that idea,thanks for that.
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PostPosted: 18-08-2013 22:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today, far from home, I decided to pop along to a site associated with a famous crime. I saw a couple of other places also linked to it but hadn't looked up the current address of the people involved because, well, that would be creepy.

Just now though I did find out and discovered that I'd twice driven within yards of their house. Part of me feels glad I didn't know, and the other part is kicking myself. Human nature is a complicated thing. Wink
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PostPosted: 15-10-2013 15:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherrybomb wrote:
McAvennie_ wrote:
Last time I was in San Francisco I had something of a morbid desire to visit the street corner where the first Zodiac victim was killed.

Going back to SF in September as part of our honeymoon, will maybe see if I can come up with a romantic suggestion to swing by that area... Cool


Is it wrong that I'd find going there rather romantic? Embarassed Confused


Sadly I didn't make it...

Was pushing my luck after dragging her around for about an hour looking for the statue of Yoda at Lucasfilm's offices! Embarassed
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PostPosted: 15-10-2013 16:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

McAvennie_ wrote:
cherrybomb wrote:
McAvennie_ wrote:
Last time I was in San Francisco I had something of a morbid desire to visit the street corner where the first Zodiac victim was killed.

Going back to SF in September as part of our honeymoon, will maybe see if I can come up with a romantic suggestion to swing by that area... 8)


Is it wrong that I'd find going there rather romantic? :oops: :?


Sadly I didn't make it...

Was pushing my luck after dragging her around for about an hour looking for the statue of Yoda at Lucasfilm's offices! :oops:
if you mean paul stine he certainly wasnt the first although the jurys out on who the first actually was i think

on jury service in 2004 i broke protocol and visted the site of the alleged rape as it was literally 5 minutes from my place ... glad i did as it clearly informed me of the nature of the place which was contaminated wasteground and not picturesque parkland as per the police photographs ( ! )
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PostPosted: 15-10-2013 17:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm....word to the wise....might be worth deleting that last bit.....
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