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Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
 Posted: 23-07-2013 13:03 Post subject: Cover up the effects of Depleted Uraninium Shells happening |
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| Quote: | The US military’s use of depleted uranium in Iraq has led to a sharp increase in Leukemia and birth defects in the city of Najaf – and panicked residents are fearing for their health. Cancer is now more common than the flu, a local doctor tells RT.
The city of Najaf saw one of the most severe military actions during the 2003 invasion. RT traveled to the area, quickly learning that every residential street in several neighborhoods has seen multiple cases of families whose children are ill, as well as families who have lost children, and families who have many relatives suffering from cancer.
Speaking on the rooftop of her house instead of her laboratory, Dr. Sundus Nsaif says the city has seen a “dramatic rise” in cancer and birth defects since the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq. Nsaif said the alternative location was chosen because there is an active push by the government not to talk about the issue, perhaps in an effort not to embarrass coalition forces.
“After the start of the Iraq war, rates of cancer, leukemia and birth defects rose dramatically in Najaf. The areas affected by American attacks saw the biggest increases. We believe it’s because of the' illegal' weapons like depleted uranium that were used by the Americans. When you visit the hospital here you see that cancer is more common than the flu," Nsaif told RT's Lucy Kafanov.
“The war isn’t over. Yes, the Americans are gone, but we are still suffering from the Consequences," said Leila Jabar, whose three children died because they were born with congenital deformities. She blames radioactive ammunition used by American forces during the war for the health problems of her children. Her only surviving 8-months-old son Ahmed has a nervous system disorder and doctors don't expect him to survive his first birthday.
Dr. Chris Busby has researched the effects of depleted uranium (DU) in detail. He says the only source of uranium in Iraq was used by American-led forces.
“We went to Fallujah and we found the levels of cancer. We looked at the parents of children with congenital malformation and we did analysis of their hair to see what was inside their hair that might be genotoxic, that might be the sort of thing that can cause congenital malformation. The only thing that we found was uranium. We found uranium in the mothers of the children with congenital malformations,” he told RT.
From 2009 onwards, credible media reports from the city of Fallujah, the scene of intense urban warfare in 2004, brought reports of high rates of congenital birth defects to the world’s attention. At least two platforms that utilize DU munitions were employed in ‘Phantom Fury,' the most intense operation since the official end of major combat operations in 2003.
At least 440,000kg of DU were used in Iraq, some ending up as DU dust, and some as corroding penetrators - leaving a still unknown number of sites with contaminated vehicles, buildings and soils, according to a Dutch report.
“The exposure risks to civilians from the use of DU in populated areas have been compounded by the US’s persistent refusal to release the data that could have helped facilitate the effective assessment and clearance work, providing that the Iraqi government had the capacity and finances to undertake it. Taken as a whole, these issues cast serious doubts over the legitimacy of the use of DU,” the Dutch report says. |
http://rt.com/news/iraq-depleted-uranium-health-394/
i posted about this happening 7 years ago.....
and here we are still......
what a lovely world ! |
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| IamSundog The FTMB member previously known as Sundog
Great Old One Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Total posts: 1572 Location: Right here Gender: Male |
| Posted: 24-07-2013 12:53 Post subject: |
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Proud to be an American, yep.
God almighty, what strategic/military reason could there be for using depleted uranium shells in cities? This is pure evil. |
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| Cochise Great Old One Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Total posts: 989 Location: Gwynedd, Wales Age: 57 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 25-07-2013 09:08 Post subject: |
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Just one question. What the report _doesn't_ say is - did they detect any increased radiation? Because it is the radiation that potentially causes the damage, as far as I know, and this is supposedly depleted - that is , no longer radioactive - uranium.
If it was still radioactive what effect do you suppose it would have had in the crews working in and on the tanks in which it was loaded? They'd be in close proximity to thirty to fifty large sources of radiation. |
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| Monstrosa Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Total posts: 480 |
| Posted: 25-07-2013 11:23 Post subject: |
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| DU is less radioactive than fuel U, but it is not non-radioactive. The alpha particles are stopped by the shell casings, so US crews will be fine. The problems come later, after the round has been fired. Some of the round with become aerosols and there will be spallation. Uranium and the transuranics are toxic, look at what happened to Alexander Litvinenko. Chronic exposure by inhalation or ingestion is likely to lead to illness and possible mutagenesis. |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 25-07-2013 12:44 Post subject: |
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for further reading
http://www.ehjournal.net/content/4/1/17
[/quote]Results
Animal studies firmly support the possibility that DU is a teratogen. While the detailed pathways by which environmental DU can be internalized and reach reproductive cells are not yet fully elucidated, again, the evidence supports plausibility. To date, human epidemiological data include case examples, disease registry records, a case-control study and prospective longitudinal studies.
Discussion
The two most significant challenges to establishing a causal pathway between (human) parental DU exposure and the birth of offspring with defects are: i) distinguishing the role of DU from that of exposure to other potential teratogens; ii) documentation on the individual level of extent of parental DU exposure. Studies that use biomarkers, none yet reported, can help address the latter challenge. Thoughtful triangulation of the results of multiple studies (epidemiological and other) of DU teratogenicity contributes to disentangling the roles of various potentially teratogenic parental exposures. This paper is just such an endeavor.
it seems to take ages for common sense on these types of subjects to get to the general populace and media....
and that's after years of denial and miss information....
experts ignored... or ridiculed...sacked ... did i miss sacked... oh yes
all in the name of war.... |
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| Mythopoeika Boring petty conservative
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Total posts: 8820 Location: Not far from Bedford Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 25-07-2013 19:36 Post subject: |
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| Cochise wrote: | Just one question. What the report _doesn't_ say is - did they detect any increased radiation? Because it is the radiation that potentially causes the damage, as far as I know, and this is supposedly depleted - that is , no longer radioactive - uranium.
If it was still radioactive what effect do you suppose it would have had in the crews working in and on the tanks in which it was loaded? They'd be in close proximity to thirty to fifty large sources of radiation. |
DU rounds are not only mildly radioactive, but also quite toxic.
They are usually jacketed in copper, so there is minimum risk to the soldiers handling the rounds before firing.
After the rounds have hit, there is a certain amount of DU that turns into fine powder, which can be inhaled, end up in the soil or even go into the water table. |
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| Zilch5 Vogon Poet
Great Old One Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Total posts: 1463 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 07:08 Post subject: |
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This is a bit odd...
| Quote: | Depleted uranium found at South Florida airport
MIAMI - Parts of a South Florida airport were evacuated after a 55-gallon drum containing depleted uranium was found.
Miami-Dade Fire Rescue reports that the exposed drum was found Thursday near a dismantled airplane at Opa-locka Executive Airport. A hazmat team from Miami International Airport responded to assess the situation, as well as a possible spill.
A fire rescue spokesman says teams are monitoring levels of radiation, but only minimal levels have been detected so far.
It wasn't immediately clear where the depleted uranium came from or why it was exposed. In the past, depleted uranium has been used as counterweights for some aircraft.
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| Zilch5 Vogon Poet
Great Old One Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Total posts: 1463 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 07:09 Post subject: |
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While goggling around a bit I came across this story from yesterday. Odd.
| Quote: | Depleted uranium found at South Florida airport
MIAMI - Parts of a South Florida airport were evacuated after a 55-gallon drum containing depleted uranium was found.
Miami-Dade Fire Rescue reports that the exposed drum was found Thursday near a dismantled airplane at Opa-locka Executive Airport. A hazmat team from Miami International Airport responded to assess the situation, as well as a possible spill.
A fire rescue spokesman says teams are monitoring levels of radiation, but only minimal levels have been detected so far.
It wasn't immediately clear where the depleted uranium came from or why it was exposed. In the past, depleted uranium has been used as counterweights for some aircraft.
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http://www.ocala.com/article/20130725/APN/1307250861 |
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| Cochise Great Old One Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Total posts: 989 Location: Gwynedd, Wales Age: 57 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 08:50 Post subject: |
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Read the study above - seems it is still a work in progress, as they have not yet identified a mechanism, only a statistical correlation. There could be a lot of other factors in a war zone that led to the effects described - what other chemicals were being splashed around?
Not saying it isn't the uranium, either - but that report certainly isn't absolute proof. Most places have some background radiation which is why I wondered why the original report didn't mention levels. The average American wouldn't live where I live because of the high level of background radiation - a combination of the rock type and Chernobyl legacy. In Britain only a tiny number of people worry about that stuff, rightly or wrongly. |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 12:52 Post subject: |
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wheres theres smoke there is usually a fire
| Quote: | Many prominent doctors and scientists contend that DU contamination is also connected to the recent emergence of diseases that were not previously seen in Iraq, such as new illnesses in the kidney, lungs, and liver, as well as total immune system collapse. DU contamination may also be connected to the steep rise in leukaemia, renal, and anaemia cases, especially among children, being reported throughout many Iraqi governorates.
There has also been a dramatic jump in miscarriages and premature births among Iraqi women, particularly in areas where heavy US military operations occurred, such as Fallujah.
Official Iraqi government statistics show that, prior to the outbreak of the First Gulf War in 1991, the rate of cancer cases in Iraq was 40 out of 100,000 people. By 1995, it had increased to 800 out of 100,000 people, and, by 2005, it had doubled to at least 1,600 out of 100,000 people. Current estimates show the increasing trend continuing.
As shocking as these statistics are, due to a lack of adequate documentation, research, and reporting of cases, the actual rate of cancer and other diseases is likely to be much higher than even these figures suggest. |
http://www.alternet.org/world/falluja-babies-and-depleted-uranium-americas-toxic-legacy-iraq |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 12:57 Post subject: |
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deliberate ? contamination that will affect them for hundreds of years ?
if this had been done to the US... ????
would there be no clean up ? |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 12:58 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | …the U.S. invasion of Iraq has left behind a legacy of cancer and birth defects suspected of being caused by the U.S. military’s extensive use of depleted uranium and white phosphorus. Noting the birth defects in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, Jamail says: “They’re extremely hard to bear witness to. But it’s something that we all need to pay attention to … What this has generated is, from 2004 up to this day, we are seeing a rate of congenital malformations in the city of Fallujah that has surpassed even that in the wake of the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that nuclear bombs were dropped on at the end of World War II.” |
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/295639_Iraq_War_Legacy-_Epidemic_of_D |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 13:03 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Depleted uranium, despite its rather benign-sounding name, is not depleted of radioactivity or toxicity. The term "depleted" refers only to its being depleted of the U-235 isotope needed for fission reactions in nuclear reactors. The nuclear waste material from nuclear power plants, DU as it is known, is what is removed from the power plants' spent fuel rods and is essentially composed of the uranium isotope U-238 as well as U-236 (a product of nuclear reactor fission, not found in nature), as well as other trace radioactive elements. Once simply a nuisance for the industry, that still has no permanent way to dispose of the dangerous stuff, it turns out to be an ideal metal for a number of weapons uses, and has been capitalized on by the Pentagon. 1.7 times heavier than lead, and much harder than steel, and with the added property of burning at a super-hot temperature, DU has proven to be an ideal penetrator for warheads that need to pierce thick armor or dense concrete bunkers made of reinforced concrete and steel. Once through the defenses, it burns at a temperature that incinerates anyone inside (which is why we see the carbonized bodies of bodies in the wreckage of Iraqi tanks hit by US fire). Accordingly it has found its way into 30 mm machine gun ammunition, especially that used by the A-10 Warthog ground-attack fighter planes used extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan (as well as Kosovo). It is also the warhead of choice for Abrams tanks and is also reportedly used in GBU-28 and the later GBU-37 bunker buster bombs, each of which can have 1-2 tons of the stuff in its warhead. DU is also used as ballast in cruise missiles, and this burns up when a missile detonates its conventional explosive. Some cruise missiles are also designed to hit hardened targets and reportedly feature DU warheads, as does the AGM-130 air-to-ground missile, which carries a one-ton penetrating warhead. In addition, depleted uranium is used in large quantities in the armor of tanks and other equipment. This material becomes a toxic source of CU pollution when these vehicles are attacked and burned.
While the Pentagon has continued to claim, against all scientific evidence, that there is no hazard posed by depleted uranium, US troops in Iraq have reportedly been instructed to avoid any sites where these weapons have been used -- destroyed Iraqi tanks, exploded bunkers, etc. -- and to wear masks if they do have to approach. Many torched vehicles have been brought back to the US, where they have been buried in special sites reserved for dangerously contaminated nuclear materials. (Thousands of tons of DU-contaminated sand from Kuwait, polluted with DU during the US destruction of Iraq's tank forces in the 1991 war, were removed and shipped to a waste site in Idaho last year with little fanfare.) Suspiciously, international health officials have been prevented or obstructed from doing medical studies of DU sites in Iraq and Afghanistan. But an excellent series of articles several years ago by the Christian Science Monitor described how reporters from that newspaper had visited such sites in Iraq with Geiger-counters and had found them to be extremely "hot" with radioactivity.
The big danger with DU is not as a pure metal, but after it has exploded and burned, when the particles of uranium oxide, which are just as radioactive as the pure isotopes, can be inhaled or ingested. Even the smallest particle of uranium in the body is both deadly poisonous as a chemical, and over time can cause cancer -- particularly in the lungs, but also the kidneys, testes and ovaries.
There are reports of a dramatic increase in the incidence of deformed babies being born in the city of Fallujah, where DU weapons were in wide use during the November 2004 assault on that city by US Marines. The British TV station SKY UK, in a report last month that has received no mention in any mainstream American news organization, found a marked increase in birth defects at local hospitals. Birth defects have also been high for years in the Basra area in the south of Iraq, where DU was used not just during America's 2003 "shock and awe" attack on Iraq, but also in the 1991 Gulf War.
Further, a report sent to the UN General Assembly by Dr Nawal Majeed Al-Sammarai, Iraq's Minister of Women's Affairs since 2006, stated that in September 2009, Fallujah General Hospital had 170 babies born, 24% of which died within their first week of life. Worse yet, fully 75% of the babies born that month were deformed. This compares to August 2002, six months before the US invasion, when 530 live births were reported with only six dying in the first week, and only one deformity. Clearly something terrible is happening in Fallujah, and many doctors suspect it's the depleted uranium dust that is permeating the city. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-lindorff/depleted-uranium-weapons_b_326547.html |
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| Jonfairway Great Old One Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Total posts: 1163 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 26-07-2013 13:05 Post subject: |
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did you read that folks ?
25 % of the babies died first week
75% of the babies were DEFORMED at birth....
how much evidence do people need ? |
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