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| Carnacki wrote: |
That'd be "Mondas" then. |
That's the very fella!! |
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| Caroline |
| Posted: 30-08-2002 19:50 Post subject: |
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Come on! There wont be any mass exodus of the top 2% as they've already got their clones in place, or they've just quit/retired and allowed ineffectual buffoons to take their place. Come on down Dubya! |
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| SameOldVardoger Great Old One Gender: Male |
| Posted: 21-01-2008 21:45 Post subject: |
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Time to revive the old Planet-X thread. Norwegian Politician Discloses Global Network of Deep Underground 2012 Survival Bases.
I got a hard time believing in this planet-x stuff to say the least. If there really was a large space object going to pass near Earth, wouldn't amateur astronomers disclose this to the world? The governments of the world would not be able to hide this from the people.
| Quote: | ProjectCamelot.org
First Release: 05-January-2008
Source Page as of 19-January-2008
Reprinted with Permission
The following message was received by us shortly after we posted our tribute page to Benazir Bhutto. Although we cannot attest personally to the information given here, we feel in good conscience that we cannot and must not keep this from publication.
The person who wrote this message to us did so under their own name (which we have checked), and enclosed a number of photographs of them with the Prime Minister of Norway and (separately) with Benazir Bhutto. We are certain of their bona fides, but you will understand that we cannot reveal their real name or publish any photos without consent.
The content of this message, if true, could hardly be more important.
[Edited for grammar and spelling errors where needed to ensure full clarity. As a preface to the message, the writer apologized for their English, which is not their language.]
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I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.
The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.
Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.
My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.
Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.
As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.
The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.
All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.
I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.
If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.
All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.
For the last time I say may God help us all... but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please...!
I could have written to you using another name but I am not afraid of anything any more. When you know certain things, you become invincible and no harm can come to you when you know that the end is soon.
I assure you 100% that things will happen. There are four years to prepare for the endgame. Get weapons, and make survival groups, and a place where you can be safe with food for a time.
Ask me anything and I will answer as much as I know about the Norwegian connection to all this. And just look around: they are building underground bases and bunkers everywhere. Open your eyes, people. Ask the governments what they are building, and they will say “Oh, it’s just storage for food”, and so on. They blind you with all the lies.
The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds.
Remember that those who are going to be in and around the city areas in 2012 are those that are going to be hit first and die first. Later the army will purge the rest of the survivors and they have a shoot to kill order if there is any resistance to bring them into the camps where every one will get marked with a number and a tag.
I also see that Benazir Bhutto is spoken of on your site. Her death was tragic. I have met Benazir, as you can see. You will also see from the photographs that I have met with a number of other notable politicians and world leaders.
The public will not know what happens till the very end, because the government does not want to create mass panic. Everything will happen quietly and the government will just disappear.
But I say this: don't go quietly into the night. Take precautions to be safe with your family. Come together with others. Work together to find ways to solve all the many problems you will face.
Kind regards
[Name and proof of identity supplied]
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From immediate further correspondence, and in response to our specific questions, we can add the following clarifications in our source's own words:
I have been to several underground bases [number given]. We used the railcars to get around. Only a few special people were selected to be shown around. Those that run with the elite know of this.
I have evidence of my claims. I trust my sources 100%, but they are afraid to tell what they know. People are afraid for their lives and that is how it is. I just also want the public to know what the hell is going on. I am not afraid of death or any other thing.
All the elite politicians in Norway know of this. They also know that if they reveal anything they will be removed from office and will be denied access to the different underground bases when the time is up.
The NOAH 12 railcars are transport railcars between the different bases underground. They have a support system of these all around from one base to another. They are mainly used by the military and they control all of them. There are orange triangle symbols in each base and the check-ins are a kind of energy field that everyone has to go through.
The future for my children is all I think of - and that for all the other children growing up in the new world. We have to make a difference for them so that they grow up knowing what their parents did for them, such as giving this information to people like yourselves.
In 2009 the government of FRP will come into power and Siv Jensen will be elected Prime Minister. This is already known. It's important to understand that. The elections are all fake and the same persons and power elite get elected each time in turn. Look up the political history of Norway, and the people that run the country now.
Please share this information with the rest of the internet. When the time comes people will survive because of the information they have learned from the different sites on the net.
I will not get anything but trouble from posting this, and I have no need to mislead anyone. I do this only to expose what is to happen in my country and that maybe some people will survive what is to come.
Kind regards
[Name supplied]
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| coldelephant |
| Posted: 22-01-2008 14:05 Post subject: |
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Seems like the writer has amalgamated a number of stories from the news and put them together, then used the politicians name and gotten photographs of the politician with other politicians; then posted the lot to the website author.
Either that or the author of the website itself has made it all up.
Just one question - why is it always 2012 for these newer end-of-the-world prophecies? |
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| SameOldVardoger Great Old One Gender: Male |
| Posted: 22-01-2008 18:30 Post subject: |
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| coldelephant wrote: | Seems like the writer has amalgamated a number of stories from the news and put them together, then used the politicians name and gotten photographs of the politician with other politicians; then posted the lot to the website author.
Either that or the author of the website itself has made it all up.
Just one question - why is it always 2012 for these newer end-of-the-world prophecies? |
The Mayan calendar ends december 21st 2012 which has made a lot of new age conspiracy theoreticians seemingly lose their marbles. |
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Bertie_Akbar Yeti Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Total posts: 80 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 23-01-2008 13:30 Post subject: |
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| excellent! lol. So why are top politicians farting around climate change and oil production initiatives? |
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| coldelephant |
| Posted: 23-01-2008 14:07 Post subject: |
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| Bertie_Akbar wrote: | | excellent! lol. So why are top politicians farting around climate change and oil production initiatives? |
Well, if you believe that website article - then it is pretty much a case of all the governments lying to us and pretending to do things whilst they surrepticiously snaffle resources and bury them in sealed chambers beneath the ground. |
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| BruceFenton Grey Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Total posts: 7 Location: Cheltenham, UK Gender: Male |
| Posted: 29-02-2008 04:10 Post subject: 2012 & Planet-X |
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Hi folks,
I have written quite a lot about both of these topics in the last few years and have a pretty good understanding of both. For a good look at P-X lore and information try 'Dark Star' by Andy Lloyd, he expresses the most reasonable explanation. If P-X is a dust shrouded Red Dwarf twin to our Sol, then we are a binary system which NASA has shown to be the case for the vast majority of known star systems. If a dust cloud shrouded proto-star is on a vast elliptical orbit then it may at times interact with us, over cycles of many thousands of years. Amateur astronomers do not have a hope of seeing this unless they have very special infra-red spectrum observatory equipment. Ironically one of the best place to look for it is from the major Australian observatory named 'Wormwood'. I say 'ironically' because in the bible this is the name of a destructive body appearing in the time of revelations.
Such an object would not come near us in cosmic terms, its not going to hit us in a few years time, but it will have energetic interactions with other solar system bodies including the sun and by such default with us also. Cosmic warming has already been observed as a new phenomena http://2012rising.com/article/is-global-warming-all-it-seems
As for 2012 itself that is a large topic and has many twists and tuns in it. I have written a piece that some find useful for getting acquainted with 2012 lore and origins. Without the fear factor that many such articles carry!
http://2012rising.com/2012
In a major shift of any sort I do not hold with the idea that its best to crawl into converted nuclear bunkers and simple hole up. If you were in the wrong location it could still end in disaster, and frankly many people do not wish to live like moles. Also if this is a long term plan the powers that be should acquaint themselves better with reproductive genetically factors and precise hormonal process in this area. It has been shown that women underground start to become infertile due to a lack of specific wavelengths of solar radiation helping control fertility cycles and the way hormones bring about changes. Long term an underground culture is doomed.
Assuming they return to the surface they will be unprepared for it unlike the hardy participants of any major change events. What will the surface dwellers make of their retuning brethren that hid in the bunkers?
I will say that the major governments have been up to all sorts of things and that we should put nothing past them. Bear in mind that an enormous percentage of public sector officials are members of secret societies, many with their own mysterious views about Egyptian magic and Hebrew mysticism. These people would certainly be aware of the links between major structures and 2012 alignments. Certainly moderately high Masons even would be aware of the 2012 alignments with Mexican and Egyptian ancient sites.
I am happy to see these topics being discussed here as a reader of FT for a decade and a proud attendee of an Unconvention in London. |
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| Bertie_Akbar Yeti Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Total posts: 80 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 29-02-2008 14:48 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Bear in mind that an enormous percentage of public sector officials are members of secret societies, many with their own mysterious views about Egyptian magic and Hebrew mysticism. |
interesting - i have just read about NASA having strong links to Egyptian mysticism and using missions to fly spacecraft around Mars and the Moon to honour specific alignments concerned with these religions. This was put forward by Richard Hoagland in this book "Dark Mission : The secret history of NASA". However I didn't believe a word of it. What is it with secret societies and ancient Egypt? Where are all the lizards? |
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| Dr_Baltar |
| Posted: 29-02-2008 16:33 Post subject: Re: 2012 & Planet-X |
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| BruceFenton wrote: | | Bear in mind that an enormous percentage of public sector officials are members of secret societies, many with their own mysterious views about Egyptian magic and Hebrew mysticism. |
That's a pretty bold statement. I presume you have the facts and figures to back this up? |
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| Heckler20 The Sockpuppet of
Cthulhu's Prodigal Son Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Total posts: 4702 Location: In the Nostril of The Crawling Chaos Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 29-02-2008 16:44 Post subject: Re: 2012 & Planet-X |
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| Dr_Baltar wrote: | | BruceFenton wrote: | | Bear in mind that an enormous percentage of public sector officials are members of secret societies, many with their own mysterious views about Egyptian magic and Hebrew mysticism. |
That's a pretty bold statement. I presume you have the facts and figures to back this up? |
I was just about to post that, as a regular Fortean, I'm sure Bruce has a slew of sources to back up that statement. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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| Posted: 29-02-2008 16:54 Post subject: Re: 2012 & Planet-X |
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| Dr_Baltar wrote: | | BruceFenton wrote: | | Bear in mind that an enormous percentage of public sector officials are members of secret societies, many with their own mysterious views about Egyptian magic and Hebrew mysticism. |
That's a pretty bold statement. I presume you have the facts and figures to back this up? |
It is, indeed. As is reference to a Red Dwarf, Binary Twin, to the Sun, causing Global Warming on Mars, which you referenced above.
http://2012rising.com/article/is-global-warming-all-it-seems
Any actual evidence for increased Climate activity on Mars, that you could point to, too? |
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| BruceFenton Grey Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Total posts: 7 Location: Cheltenham, UK Gender: Male |
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| BruceFenton Grey Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Total posts: 7 Location: Cheltenham, UK Gender: Male |
| Posted: 29-02-2008 20:46 Post subject: Bold statement indeed |
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"Bear in mind that an enormous percentage of public sector officials are members of secret societies, many with their own mysterious views about Egyptian magic and Hebrew mysticism."
Agreed, its an unsubstantiated statement and impossible to back up as by definition secret societies will never reveal all of their exact numbers and positions. Rather I should say that 'a number' of public sector officials are members of secret societies and that these societies have connections to aforementioned mysticism.
The Masons are of course only one sect, but this link gives some interesting approximate numbers of lodges and admitted members for that group. As for Templars, Rosicrucian's, Scroll & Key and all the others one does not know, sorry for the misleading statement.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2066846.stm |
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| markbellis Great Old One Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Total posts: 540 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 29-02-2008 21:11 Post subject: Re: Mars climate change |
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| BruceFenton wrote: | http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_snow_011206-1.html
I suggest a quick google of the subject rather than me posting the dozens of links!
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/ |
No need to post a lot of links - just read this:
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mmayancalendar.html
There is no known historical prophecy of any changes at all (as in written down in historical texts either Mayan or Spanish) regarding the end of the Mayan long count calendar, and the correct date and year of the end is not completely certain. I'd compare it to those earth shattering events that happened on Jan 1, 2000. You had to turn a page on a calendar then get on with your life.
And as to planet X or a red dwarf on an eccentric orbit that is supposed to periodically bring it into close contact with the inner planets... look up at the sky at night. Note how all the visible planets move in regular circular orbits in roughly the same plane. This wouldn't happen if there was a large mass swinging by to pay us a visit every few millennia.
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