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Posted: 01-03-2008 01:18 Post subject:

The fact that the Mayan calendar comes to an end in 2012 does not in itself mean very much. It is just possible that is as far as the calendar makers/astrologers had got before their own civilisation crumbled...

Posted: 01-03-2008 01:19 Post subject:

And yes... what Markbellis said... Smile

Posted: 02-03-2008 15:10 Post subject:

Perhaps we should reserve som Schadenfreude for new year 2012/13 and have some real fun with these conspiracists then. It will be like the year 2000 all over again.

Posted: 02-03-2008 21:18 Post subject:

Posted: 03-03-2008 13:52 Post subject:

This is all such fun!

I've been reading 'The Illuminatus! Trilogy' (very funny book by the way, it is a sci-fi comedy along the lines of Douglas Adams, but written years before he wrote HHGTTG).

According to that, the reason why Egyptians and Mayans used pyramids is for sacrificial ceremonies as part of a transcendental illumination thing, i.e. you slaughter lots of people and the resulting emotions catapault you into pure energy form.

The book even makes reference to the Mayan wheel of life, etc; and to politicians and governments being part of the various groups (inc Masons) being manipulated by the Illuminati to control all progress, ideas, innovation and freedom of thought in order to ensure they can cause wars and stuff so that they can have their mass slaughter and become 'gods'.

Seems to me like a few people have read this set of books since 1974 and all sorts of conspiracy theories have been born of it - or amalgamated into it...

Fascinating stuff.

So if you want to believe in the theories presented in this sci-fi comedy classic, then perhaps the governments are keeping secret about the whole thing so that we all die and they can become gods.

Which would make them a complete bunch of tossers. Twisted Evil

Posted: 03-03-2008 16:37 Post subject:

I desperately want Illuminatus! to be true. I think it is.

Posted: 01-04-2009 00:55 Post subject: Zecharia Sitchin

Hi,

I've yet to read any of Zecharai Sitchins books, but am planning to do so.
It seems he has written loads! Including "The Earths Chronicles"

I'm just wondering if anyone might have any suggestions on what to read first? Book by book from the beginning, or is there a later book at some stage that sums it all up??

Being on a Tom Thumb Shoe String Budget at the mo, I cant afford to buy the same book more than once, as it were!!

Thanks, Firefly

Posted: 01-04-2009 10:00 Post subject:

Firefly, I'd strongly advise you not to bother, except for amusement. Like Immanuel Velikovsky, Sitchin has a considerable familiarity with ancient religious Hebrew and other writings, but due to his own pre-existing religious convictions places reliance on their literalness and accuracy far beyond, and interprets both them and any relevant archaeological evidence very differently than, what any other experts in those fields accept. Also like Velikovsky, his (lack of) knowledge of the physical sciences in general and astronomy in particular lead him to make very unlikely or physically impossible propositions to accord with his interpretations of the historical "evidence."

It's possible that he may have come up with a few nuggets of genuine interest from these ancient texts and tablets, but they're buried in mountains of dross, and one would need to know quite a lot about archaeology & ancient history, and astronomy & related topics, to have a chance of spotting them.

I believe it's said that historians generally dismiss Velikovsky's historical postulations out of hand, but find some of his astronomical ones intriguing, while those of an astronomical bent (like myself) think the opposite. (I suspect that there may just possibly be something in Velikovsky's critique of the standard Egyptian chronology, not least because I've seen similar suggestions coming from other, seemingly independent, sources and disciplines.) If you've already read any of Velikovsky's books, be warned that Sitchkin's are generally much longer and harder to follow, not to mention printed in smaller type!

I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this topic, especially Rynner's.

Posted: 03-04-2009 01:55 Post subject: Sitchin

Thanks for that. All food for thought!

Firefly

Posted: 03-04-2009 09:40 Post subject:

Posted: 03-04-2009 12:17 Post subject: Sitchin and Velikovsky

That's true of alot of things!! That's why I like to actually read / see / taste... stuff for myself so that I can have my own ' Valid opinion' on these things!

Altho, I'm always grateful for tips and advice from others to help me on my way! You two helpfull beings, are obviously at a much more 'advanced stage' in your 'studies' than I am! But hopefully the help can go both ways, as I might just pick up on something that you missed!?? ...Dont hold your brath though!! Ha

Thanks again. Firefly

Posted: 30-08-2013 11:18 Post subject:

I can't find a Nibiru/Planet X thread, though I'm fairly certain we have one. Anyway, seems to be a lot of new videos out about Nibiru, sometimes with what seems like real scientific minds confirming its existence.

An actual threat, or just doomsdayers being doomsdayers?

Posted: 02-09-2013 18:12 Post subject:

Posted: 02-09-2013 22:08 Post subject:

There are thousands of astronomers, world-wide, with knowledge of all the latest findings about aspects of orbits, stars, planetary and cometary bodies, etc, etc.

If there was such a thing as 'Nibiru', don't you think they'd be the first to know about it, rather than some anonymous bloggers on iffy websites, who find their information on even more dubious websites? Evil or Very Mad

Yes, we need hard data, from people prepared to reveal their education and experience, rather than doomsaying nonsense from the fluffy woo-woo wing! Twisted Evil

Posted: 02-09-2013 23:27 Post subject: