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Ringo_ Sanitised for your protection Great Old One Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Total posts: 1091 Location: is everything! Age: 35 Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2012 01:55 Post subject: Survivalist fiction/TEOTWAWKI stories? |
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Hi all,
I'm looking for help and a point in the right direction regarding a genre I think I'm interested in.
I'm becoming fascinated with End of the World scenarios; the lone survivor in a desolate city, human ingenuity put to the test etc. After watching countless movies I realised I've never read anything with this as the theme and I think I would love it. The problem I'm having is even naming the genre (or even sub genre) to begin my search.
I suppose my interest is quite specific. I'm not so much interested in the sci-fi, post nuclear struggle set in the near future- more of the personal struggle of the survivor. What if it happened tomorrow, in todays society?
The images from various movies spring to mind and I am equally horrified and excited by the mental image of waking one morning to find I am one of only a handful of people left in the city/country/world. What would I do and how would I cope?
So, can anyone tell me the name of the genre I am interested in and maybe suggest a few authors to get me started? |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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Posted: 23-01-2012 02:40 Post subject: |
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Well heres a pic of your typical post-apoc survivalist:
http://rockstarchan.com/b/src/132722957576.jpg
Not sure if theres a name for the genre. I'd recommend Among Madmen by Jim Starlin & Daina Graziunas. Hater; Dog Bllood by David Moody.
Theres Dies The Fire By S.M.Strirling, it started out set in 1998. There noe about ten books in the series but you mightb like the first one or even the first trilogy. Maybe a bit too SF/SFantasy fot you.
Dies the Fire chronicles the struggle of two groups who try to survive "The Change," a sudden worldwide event that alters physical laws so that electricity, gunpowder, and most other forms of high-energy-density technology no longer work. As a result, modern civilization comes crashing down. |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 23-01-2012 10:54 Post subject: |
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| It's tricky to find anything outside of the remit of what would be called sci-fi with such a subject. No doubt because of the 'what if' way such ideas work. Anyway, you could try Richard Matheson's novel 'I Am Legend' - just don't step up to it with the Charlton Heston/Will Young films in mind (the Vincent Price version is much better!). What about Cormac McCarthy's 'The Road'? Or John Christopher's 'The Death of Grass'? |
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Monstrosa Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Total posts: 506 |
Posted: 23-01-2012 11:51 Post subject: |
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| Try "Z for Zacharia" teen fiction but a good story. |
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Ravenstone I suffer bad press in Genesis. I may sue... The Original Sin Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Total posts: 6073 Location: Outside the Garden of Eden, with my flamin' sword Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 23-01-2012 12:43 Post subject: |
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Terry Nation's 'Survivors'. But don't bother with the remake - go straight for the original series. It's aged surprisingly well.
There is a book as well, which covers the first few episodes and has some differences to the series.
The first series is undoubtedly the best. The second series starts well then goes down hill. The third series is weak apart from a couple of notable exceptions (particularly "The Last Laugh", which is probably the best episode of the lot, and one of the best episodes of the whole series). |
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oldrover Great Old One Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Total posts: 2147 Location: Wales Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2012 13:34 Post subject: |
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| There's always The Stand. |
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gncxx King-Size Canary Great Old One Joined: 25 Aug 2001 Total posts: 13561 Location: Eh? Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2012 19:03 Post subject: |
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| I would highly recommend the grandaddy of the modern post-apocalypse story, the very wonderful Earth Abides by George R. Stewart. It's still in print, adventurous, as realistic as the author could make it and even moving by the end. A genuine classic and extremely influential. |
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Monstrosa Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Total posts: 506 |
Posted: 23-01-2012 20:43 Post subject: |
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| There are the "Left Behind"books. Never read any, they're supposedly about those left behind after the Rapture. |
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dreeness Teen Titans Forum TGNMemory Great Old One Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Total posts: 1045 Location: Teen Titans Message Board TGNMemory Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 23-01-2012 20:47 Post subject: |
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Something like post-apocalyptic, dystopian sort of stuff?
Walk to the End of the World, by Suzy McKee Charnas -- disturbing, and very much early 1970s, a bit dated.
Riddley Walker, by Russell Hoban -- eerie and strange.
Lucifer's Hammer, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle -- has sort of a "made for tv movie" feel to it, tepid crap.
Farnham's Freehold, by Robert Heinlein -- like something Charles Manson could've written, only less coherent. |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 23-01-2012 20:48 Post subject: |
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| Monstrosa wrote: | | Try "Z for Zacharia" teen fiction but a good story. |
Yep, that's a good one! |
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Mythopoeika Boring petty conservative
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Posted: 23-01-2012 21:31 Post subject: |
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'The Postman' by David Brin? Also, films by Mel Gibson and Kevin Costner...
'A boy and his dog' by Harlan Ellison. A film was made of that, too.
Sorry, it's really difficult to think of something that is non-sci fi... |
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Synchronous Dazed and confused Great Old One Joined: 04 Jul 2009 Total posts: 171 Location: indoors Age: 51 Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2012 21:45 Post subject: |
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| Day of the Triffids springs to mind.... a bit sci-fi but still a good tale of survival of a few in a hostile world. |
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| graylien Great Old One Location: Norwich - home of the Puppet Man! Age: 42 Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2012 22:26 Post subject: Re: Survivalist fiction/TEOTWAWKI stories? |
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| Ringo_ wrote: | I am equally horrified and excited by the mental image of waking one morning to find I am one of only a handful of people left in the city/country/world. What would I do and how would I cope?
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Tins! (And a tin opener, of course.)
Assuming there wasn't some deadly imminent threat (zombies, nuclear radiation, fast-spreading fatal disease, warmongering aliens etc etc ) I reckon you could live out your life reasonably comfortably in a town/city from which all other life has suddenly vanished, never to return. Your worst enemy would be the elements (and assuming there were some intact buildings left, that shouldn't be too much of a problem in your lifetime.).
Well, that and loneliness.
Oh, and the complete lack of medical expertise, should you need it. (My own personal Achilles Heel would be a desperate need for Asthma inhalers during the Summer months. Indeed, my first action upon waking to find the rest of the human race had mysteriously vanished would probably be to raid some pharmacies in desperate search of a stockpile of the buggers...)
EDIT: Oh, and rats, I guess. Although hopefully the rats would have mysteriously vanished too...
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| graylien Great Old One Location: Norwich - home of the Puppet Man! Age: 42 Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2012 22:28 Post subject: |
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| Monstrosa wrote: | | There are the "Left Behind"books. Never read any, they're supposedly about those left behind after the Rapture. |
I skimmed through one in a charity shop once. Abysmal twaddle. They're hugely successful, though. |
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Ravenstone I suffer bad press in Genesis. I may sue... The Original Sin Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Total posts: 6073 Location: Outside the Garden of Eden, with my flamin' sword Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 23-01-2012 22:32 Post subject: Re: Survivalist fiction/TEOTWAWKI stories? |
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| graylien wrote: | I reckon you could live out your life reasonably comfortably in a town/city from which all other life has suddenly vanished, never to return. Your worst enemy would be the elements (and assuming there were some intact buildings left, that shouldn't be too much of a problem in your lifetime.).
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Yes. If everyone simply vanishes. Otherwise, you have hundreds of thousands of corpses lying around, with the attendant vermin and disease.
As Survivors pointed out so eloquently - you may be able to knock together a rudimentary table, for example. But could you make the axe or the saw to chop down the tree? Could you manufacture the wood into planks? Could you make a hammer? Forge yourself some nails? Make screws? It's not just a case of surviving, it's a matter of learning absolutely everything from scratch - all the rudimentary skills needed to survive. |
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