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jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
Posted: 05-10-2013 12:18 Post subject: |
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Thanks Pietro.
If I do a search for a product, I am bombarded with ads for similar products.
Even my youtube searches contain irrelvant links to something I may have previously looked at. Sometimes this happens if I've mentioned something in an email. So it isn't just a question of digestion of information but it's the filtering of information relevant to an individual's world view that will become an issue.
The future will be an odd time where the first five pages on a search will point you at ideas that integrate with the thoughts you've already twittered and for those with short attention spans, it'll be difficult to get beyond this and find a contrary opinion or in some cases, the truth. (should such a thing exist).
Ten years ago, the average attention span was 12 minutes. Now it's just 5 seconds. - I find that a bit worrying. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 05-10-2013 12:27 Post subject: |
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Of course, it could just be that there are a lot more people out there, being prompted to think about a subject, perhaps for the first time. Lacking the basic skills, but still proffering an opinion. Not people losing skills, but more people being engaged in the process.
Glass half empty, or half full? |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21362 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 05-10-2013 13:08 Post subject: |
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We have a similar thread from 2010,
Internet 'rewiring brains'
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=952105#952105
(Which is more proof that the world is overpopulated - it's almost impossible to find an original idea, because someone else has already come up with it! ) |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 05-10-2013 19:39 Post subject: |
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Mythopoeika Boring petty conservative
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Total posts: 9109 Location: Not far from Bedford Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 05-10-2013 20:06 Post subject: |
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I think it may be a case of more information, more availability, but the majority of people don't have the ability to deal with it all. We just noticed it more because the information is now more available, all over the place. People who don't have the ability or inclination to assimilate large amounts of diverse information now routinely look for information at all times of the day.
As has always been the case, the intellectual top few % will be the ones who can (and will) best use that information.
My sister, her husband and their 2 sons are all examples of people who have done well academically, yet not one of them will read a book for pleasure. As a consequence, they actually don't know very much (i.e. general knowledge).
It is a source of frustration sometimes, when I have to explain basic concepts to my sister - it is almost as if speaking to a child. I keep telling her that if she wants to find out stuff, it's pretty much all there on the Internet (well almost), but she won't use it to further her education.
So... it's not just the younger generation. |
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jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-10-2013 10:50 Post subject: |
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Myth...did you look at the link to the infographic?
It proposes that social media sites are having a very clear effect on attention spans and ability to retain information. Especially when that information is packaged in a video rather than just text alone. While you can argue there have always been those with short attention spans, the data points to a real and growing problem as more people spend their lives online. At the moment, 7% of people forget their own birthdays from time to time. As £1.6 billion of damage was caused by lack of concentration last year, it also poses a real danger to us aware people going about our business. I've given up counting how many kids I've had to brake in front of as they step out into the road looking at their phone instead of the traffic.
And as I also pointed out, in future, the information you search for may just be information you've already connected to in other posts or links - i.e. tailored to your world view and not necessarily accurate. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 06-10-2013 10:56 Post subject: |
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| jimv1 wrote: | ...
And as I also pointed out, in future, the information you search for may just be information you've already connected to in other posts or links - i.e. tailored to your world view and not necessarily accurate. |
Leaving the internet? Take a dump! Don't forget to dump your cookies after every session.  |
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Anome_ Faceless Man Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-10-2013 11:15 Post subject: |
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| Pietro_Mercurios wrote: | | jimv1 wrote: | ...
And as I also pointed out, in future, the information you search for may just be information you've already connected to in other posts or links - i.e. tailored to your world view and not necessarily accurate. |
Leaving the internet? Take a dump! Don't forget to dump your cookies after every session.  |
I frequently find myself tossing my cookies when I've been on certain sites on the internet. |
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HenryFort Bad Craziness - Wide Asleep at the Wheel
Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Total posts: 926 Location: UK Again Age: 43 Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-10-2013 16:26 Post subject: |
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| i think the culture of "on-demand" programming is central to this - which originated with the constant broadcast programming and advertising across endless tv channels a few decades ago ... |
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Mythopoeika Boring petty conservative
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Total posts: 9109 Location: Not far from Bedford Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-10-2013 20:10 Post subject: |
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| jimv1 wrote: | | Myth...did you look at the link to the infographic? |
Actually, no...didn't get the time.
| jimv1 wrote: | It proposes that social media sites are having a very clear effect on attention spans and ability to retain information. Especially when that information is packaged in a video rather than just text alone. While you can argue there have always been those with short attention spans, the data points to a real and growing problem as more people spend their lives online. At the moment, 7% of people forget their own birthdays from time to time. As £1.6 billion of damage was caused by lack of concentration last year, it also poses a real danger to us aware people going about our business. I've given up counting how many kids I've had to brake in front of as they step out into the road looking at their phone instead of the traffic.
And as I also pointed out, in future, the information you search for may just be information you've already connected to in other posts or links - i.e. tailored to your world view and not necessarily accurate. |
You raise very good points there. |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17931 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
Posted: 07-10-2013 14:38 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Food photos on social media 'may ruin your appetite'
07 Oct 2013
You are in a restaurant. The waiter brings your food to the table and it looks so amazing, you upload a picture on Instagram to show your friends. No harm done, right? Well according to a new study, you may have just put your friends off their food.
Researchers from Brigham Young University (BYU) and the University of Minnesota say their study, published in The Journal of Consumer Psychology, shows that looking at too many pictures of food can make it less enjoyable to eat.
"In a way, you're becoming tired of that taste without even eating the food," says Ryan Elder, professor at BYU and co-author of the study. "It's sensory boredom - you've kind of moved on. You don't want that taste experience anymore."
The researchers recruited 232 participants who were asked to carry out experiments that involved viewing and rating pictures of various foods.
In one experiment, half of the participants were asked to look at 60 pictures of sweet foods, including cake, truffles and chocolates. The other half of the participants were asked to look at 60 pictures of salty foods, including chips, pretzels and French fries.
Both groups rated each food based on how appetizing they thought it was.
All subjects were then required to eat a salty food, specifically, peanuts. They then rated how much they enjoyed eating the peanuts.
Decreased appetite due to satiation
A photo of food being taken with an i-phone
Researchers say that viewing too many uploaded photos of food on social media sites may reduce appetite by increasing a person's satiation.
Credit: Brigham Young University
Results of the experiment showed that the participants who viewed the photos of the salty foods enjoyed the peanuts significantly less, compared with those who viewed the sweet foods, even though they had not viewed pictures of peanuts, just other salty foods.
The researchers say the reason for this is that over-exposure to images of food increases a person's satiation.
Satiation is defined as a reduction in enjoyment as a result of repeated consumption. For example, a person enjoys the first slice of cake more than the fourth slice, as they have become tired of eating the same food.
The study authors say:
"We provide mediation evidence to show that satiation manifests because considering a food engenders spontaneous simulations of the taste of that food item, which by itself is enough to produce satiation.
These findings establish sensory simulations as an important mechanism underlying satiation, and provide behavioral evidence that simple evaluations can produce sensory-specific satiety."
Jeff Larson, also a professor at BYU, notes that if a person wants to continue enjoying food consumption, it is best to avoid looking at too many food-related photos.
"Even I felt a little sick to my stomach during the study after looking at all the sweet pictures we had," he says.
But he notes that their findings could be useful for those who want to avoid a particular unhealthy food. If a person wants to avoid eating chocolate, for example, he says they may want to look at more pictures of it.
However, Prof. Elder warns that there is a stipulation: "You do have to look at a decent number of pictures to get these effects. It's not like if you look at something two or three times you'll get that satiated effect."
Medical News Today recently reported on a study suggesting that lack of sleep leads to increased food purchasing.
Written by Honor Whiteman
Copyright: Medical News Today
References:
Satiation from sensory simulation: Evaluating foods decreases enjoyment of similar foods, Jeffrey S. Larson, Joseph P. Redden, Ryan S. Elder, published in the Journal of Consumer Psychology, 14 September 2013. Abstract
How Instagram can ruin your dinner, news release from Brigham Young University, accessed 4 October 2013.
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JamesWhitehead Piffle Prospector Joined: 02 Aug 2001 Total posts: 5779 Location: Manchester, UK Gender: Male |
Posted: 07-10-2013 14:50 Post subject: |
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We are told that looking at porn ruins the appetite for the real thing . . .
I see restaurants filled with nerds taking pictures of their food and leaving empty but feeling full. Profiterole-Aid may be called in to shift all those uneaten calories to less developed regions.  |
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Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 07-10-2013 15:07 Post subject: |
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And this is bad...How?
<Goes off to read fathers recipe book collection before tea> |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 07-10-2013 15:10 Post subject: |
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| Explains all the food-porn TV cooks series. People watch Jamie Oliver, the hairy bikers, or that shouty-sweary chap, on the job and are quite relieved to be just opening a tin of beans. |
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