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PostPosted: 24-01-2014 20:31    Post subject: Similar UFOs: same models or same objects? Reply with quote

This UFO photo from Germany from the 1970s: http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/photosmain/Hamburg1977.jpg
looks a lot like the McMinnville UFO:
http://ufofest.com/files/2013/04/McMin-UFO-2.jpg
What if these machines hid away in our oceans and came out for periodic surveillance every decade or so?
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PostPosted: 24-01-2014 23:47    Post subject: Re: Similar UFOs: same models or same objects? Reply with quote

feinman wrote:
What if these machines hid away in our oceans and came out for periodic surveillance every decade or so?


Interesting idea. Well done for spotting the UFO design correlation.
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PostPosted: 25-01-2014 00:02    Post subject: Re: Similar UFOs: same models or same objects? Reply with quote

feinman wrote:
What if these machines hid away in our oceans and came out for periodic surveillance every decade or so?


...or a hubcap and fishing line proves to be irrestible?
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PostPosted: 25-01-2014 01:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, the Rhodes picture:
http://www.foreshadower.net/rhodes-photographs/
And this picture from Poland:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/1950s/Photo292.htm
If you look closely, it's not a saucer, but a heel shape in perspective, like Arnold's sketch, but it has grown a pyramidal structure on top. It could also pass for the Rendlesham ufo:
http://www.nickpope.net/rendlesham-forest.htm

I actually think many of the pictures on this page are of the same Costa Rica object:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decadepage/1970s/36.htm

I also think this African UFO from 1956:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/africa/Photo36.htm
Is the same one as the Costa Rican UFO seen here:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case250.htm
But it has just become more spindle shaped. These things can apparently change shape a bit, as necessary.
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PostPosted: 30-01-2014 14:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've wondered why early UFO photographs and sightings (40s, 50s) look so different from the contemporary popular portrayals of spacecraft in the pulp magazines etc. Why would hoaxers not draw upon the popular coceptions, and instead opt for featureless silvery objects usually without portholes, windows, or rocket exhaust? Evidence of technologies not known about at the time.
http://tinyurl.com/nnh7nzt
Were there illustrations of metallic disc-like objects in sci fi magazines before the 1947 UFO wave?
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PostPosted: 30-01-2014 15:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've wondered why early UFO photographs and sightings (40s, 50s) look so different from the contemporary popular portrayals of spacecraft in the pulp magazines etc. Why would hoaxers not draw upon the popular coceptions, and instead opt for featureless silvery objects usually without portholes, windows, or rocket exhaust? Evidence of technologies not known about at the time.
http://tinyurl.com/nnh7nzt
Were there illustrations of metallic disc-like objects in sci fi magazines before the 1947 UFO wave?

Conceptions were wider than you might think.

The Skylark of Space was written between 1915 and 1921, and serialized in 1928 in Amazing Stories. The Skylark itself (and it's successor ships), were metal spheres powered not by rockets etc but by combining magical metal "X" with copper and producing something akin to antigravity. The Skylark Series was highly popular (the author is also the author of the Lensman series).
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PostPosted: 30-01-2014 15:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Thank you for that. Very interesting.
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PostPosted: 30-01-2014 16:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

feinman wrote:
Wow! Thank you for that. Very interesting.

It's a very fun book and series in the space opera style. Still published as well.
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PostPosted: 30-01-2014 16:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamalktk wrote:
feinman wrote:
Wow! Thank you for that. Very interesting.

It's a very fun book and series in the space opera style. Still published as well.


Hehe! :
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/10/1185930/-Sci-Fi-Fantasy-Club-The-Skylark-of-Space-part-3

Maybe that's what I saw Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07-02-2014 00:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

This object:
http://ufoevidence.org/cases/case768.htm

Reminds me of this photo:
http://ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/1950s/Photo376.htm

The two locations are four hours apart.
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PostPosted: 27-03-2014 10:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good one...SotT net published on Monday. Never heard of it myself and I've run a check in search and can't find it referenced on FTMB so forgive me if it's been discussed and MODS shift it if necessary.

We have here four independent video clips from Achalm castle, Reutlingen in Germany, 18th August, 2012 all showing the same object.

CLIP 1
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Published on Aug 18, 2012
This UFO, or whatever it is, flew this morning at about 10 am (August 18, 2012) over the mountain "Achalm" in Reutlingen, Germany. Extremely strange!


CLIP 2
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Published on Aug 19, 2012


CLIP 3
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Published on Aug 20, 2012


CLIP 4
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Published on Aug 20, 2012


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An interesting UFO case started from a video posted to YouTube that made notable because of the unusual fact that three different people, from various angles, recorded the same sighting over the ancient ruins of Achalm castle in Germany.

The unidentified flying object captured on tape looks enormous as it spins like a top. A closeup of the object doesn't reveal much identifiable detail, except to say that it's definitely not any known aircraft.

The separate videos were posted individually between Saturday, August 18, and Monday, August 20, 2012. The compilation video, posted by HaunebuTechnology hit the web late Monday night. The three separate images were also compiled together on the same screenshot, lending lots of credence to the conclusion none of them were faked.

SotT.net



My only conclusion, given all four clips have the UFO framed when it races away at the end which I find a little suspect, if it's a hoax it's similiar to the "ball of light UFO over Jerusalem (Planned multiple video release using CGI software) or to a lesser extant the sound of the Martians from War of the Worlds being dubbed onto iPhone footage of bedroom window views (multiple postings of the same hoax, possibly a viral at the time?).

This page has an update from 15th September showing the same craft but the sky looks completely different.

More searching took me to this page which isn't very long and if you stick with it all becomes a little bit of an MIB tale relating to the speed of the copyright use to the same company on each of the clips.

It dissects the people who filmed the clips quite well and makes a case they are genuine.

The same page also claims it's been informed we are seeing a Japanese fighting kite (possibly a butterfly or anime character?)....though I can't seem to find one looking like that on the net.

Further reading of other sites point to the camera shakes and filming techniques as suspect therefore not real.

There's even an Illuminate reference to the castle itself the UFO is flying over out there somewhere as well...but I stopped Googling at the point and stopped drinking coffee.

Has anyone come across the sighting before and can shed some light onto it....perhaps have their own opinion?

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PostPosted: 27-03-2014 18:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each clip may be from a different camera from different angles, but the object moves the same at the end - gliding around to the right and zooming away to the left, which looks as if it has been placed on the footage afterwards. Before that I thought it was a balloon, but now I'm not so sure.
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PostPosted: 28-03-2014 14:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

feinman wrote:
Were there illustrations of metallic disc-like objects in sci fi magazines before the 1947 UFO wave?


I'd recommend having a browse through UFOPOP - particularly the Magazines and Comic Book galleries.

http://www.ufopop.org/images/1940/AdventuresOfBuckRogers08.jpg
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PostPosted: 28-03-2014 16:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

graylien wrote:
feinman wrote:
Were there illustrations of metallic disc-like objects in sci fi magazines before the 1947 UFO wave?


I'd recommend having a browse through UFOPOP - particularly the Magazines and Comic Book galleries.

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Excellent. Certainly raises the possibility of pump priming! Smile
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