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PostPosted: 03-02-2014 23:18    Post subject: A scary long flash of light at night: ever experienced it? Reply with quote

Back in 1987 I was driving with my future spouse very late at night down from the highlands of Scotland, and was passing a loch side into a long quiet village that we both knew well.

We'd become used to the street lighting, as opposed to the total darkness that we'd been driving through previously, and we were moving very slowly. There were absolutely no other cars about the place, no people, and the area was hemmed-in by mountains that were completely void of roads or houses.

Suddenly, as we left the village, we were both completely blasted by the brightest light I have ever experienced in my life, white and literally painful. It was so bright, I could see red through my reactively-closed eyelids. It was exactly how I would've imagined the flash would be from a nuclear weapon, but it lasted a lot longer than a flash. I've no way of telling exactly how long for, but the entire inside of the car was lit to the extent that it was hardly possible to see the interior. This was no mid-day yellow sun, it was white, like...an arc-light, but everywhere.

Both of us experienced exactly the same effects at the same time. It was extremely frightening, and left us both sitting in the car, stalled, half in a ditch, long after it stopped.

There have been very few times in my life when I've personally experienced something that has been totally inexplicable, but this was much more frightening than I'm describing. As I type this, it brings it back to me as if it just happened a few minutes ago.

A few other entirely-subjective observations:

- we both agreed that the light was a bright inside the car as outside, and it almost felt like it filled us up (but not in any pleasant way at all)

- it was the same brightness eyes open/eyes closed/eyes open

- it lasted for longer than a car travels two or three car lengths at 30miles an hour, and was so physically disturbing/frightening, I was unable to brake to a stop, my knees were up in the air in sheer terror

- there was no moon in the sky, and the sky was clear

- no shooting stars or other astronomical happenings were taking place

- it was entirely non-directional, it seemed to come from everywhere

I'd love to know what happened to us that night, even just to exorcise the memory. I cannot over-emphasise how genuinely scary this experience was, despite sounding trivial. It still gives me the shakes, now, almost three decades after the event.
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 01:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Maybe a test of some military weapon?
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 02:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Later, but still interesting:

On August 8th 1996, Andrew McMichael of Mortonhall in Edinburgh woke up at 2.15 am.

A fox had been coming into the garden and so Andrew decided to poke his head out of the bedroom window and see if their nocturnal visitor had eaten the food left out for him. He had.

The plate was clean. As Andrew looked up he was just in time to see an object move in an undulating path across the trees and houses at the edge of Frogston Road to the south of his house. It was completely silent and had a slight round bright red emission at the centre. The UFO was oval in shape with a small dome. He estimated its size as around 30 feet long and 15 feet from top to bottom. When it first caught his attention it was hovering at around 200 feet, directly above the houses opposite.

The object moved away in 'a slightly wavy pattern' then 'rose up as if to clear a clump of trees'.

To Andrew, it seemed to change direction twice, as though searching for something, before disappearing behind some sycamores bordering farmland.

It was not the first strange incident Andrew experienced. A week earlier, on 2nd August, he woke early at around 3.15 am., Disturbed by the movement of his wife and her exclamation, 'What on earth's that....! Together they looked out of the window and were almost blinded by 'an unearthly dazzling white light' which as Andrew recalls, 'was so bright that I couldn't see anything else outside the bedroom window'. He describes a 'slightly buzzy feeling' as if static charge was present. The light moved off silently in a westerly direction.

About a month later, in casual conversation with neighbors, Andrew learned that they too had been woken by a strong white light, bright even through thick bedroom curtains. The sensation of an electrically charged atmosphere was also present

From: http://www.uforth.com/scotland.htm

Perhaps similar thing came right down on your car and then left.

Sounds like it could be the same object from this earlier sighting:

Rugby Ball
Location: Ramsden Heath (Essex) - Skies over Hanningfield Reservoir
Type: UFO
Date / Time: February (?) 1985
Further Comments: A zigzagging rugby ball shaped object, larger than an aircraft, was reported by a witness. The ufo was surrounded by red and orange lights.

Ever notice any missing time, strange psychological issues?
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 06:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

A weapon? Certainly not any form of conventional pyrotechnic/flare etc, that's something I'm quite familiar with. The main weapon similarity, we felt, was to a long, extended nuclear-style flash.

We never saw any other objects that night, nor did we feel that the car was physically hit by something.

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...'slightly buzzy feeling'....
Ever notice any missing time, strange psychological issues?
A buzzy feeling? Oh yes, but probably just a physiological reaction to the light itself. As far as regards any classic 'lost time' effects, no, nothing like that. But I reckon both of us were more shaken by the experience than we should've been. By that, I mean the sheer scale and duration of the experience isn't getting properly conveyed by my words. It might have been some form of lightning (it could have been the right colour and intensity, but not duration nor weather type or repetition/flicker. It felt like it was internal, physically, beyond the bone, and external at the same time. Total immersion.

There was no ozone/static type 'feel' to it, and yet I believe it must've been electromagnetic in some way. Perhaps a very near miss from a meteorite? But it lasted such a long time (well, genuinely felt like it did, anyway)
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 08:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the meteorite suggestion is plausible. I myself have witnessed one that one lit up the countryside around me in quite an unexpected way. Admitedly not to the extent that Ermintrude describes.

That recent big Russian one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI certainly had a flash to it!
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 10:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

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About a month later, in casual conversation with neighbors, Andrew learned that they too had been woken by a strong white light, bright even through thick bedroom curtains. The sensation of an electrically charged atmosphere was also present


My mother experienced the same thing, I am guessing about 1994/95. I was in the next bedroom and was asleep. She said the whole bedroom was lit up by a bright white light for (she judged) about half a minute. She was too afraid to go to the window. No accompanying noise before, during or after.
The same year, prior to this, she heard something like a 'giant tuning fork' (her words) in the night and above the house, which began loudly (again, I didn't wake up - I am bloody useless! And a light sleeper. You would think I would wake!) gradually receded as if rising and going away.

We talked about it quite a lot and going through everything possible or probable rather than UFO's, etc. I did wonder if kids were creeping around and playing with a mag-light or something, but she said the light 'bleached the room' as if shining directly in, and kids were unlikely to be able to get into the back garden without a ladder. (There was no sound of any-one, and it was a quiet summer night).

I too have seen a very bright meteorite years ago, which did light up the sky for several seconds.

Ermintrude -- That's all I have really, but I can, I think, imagine how you felt. But this startles me:
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'it almost felt like it filled us up (but not in any pleasant way at all)'


You did not suffer any after-effects of any kind?
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 11:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

The meteorite explanation might serve for colour, and conceivably duration, but not (I think?) for the lack of directional shadows. If it had been so close to us, and the ground, to have been an isotropic source of light, it would've been a short-lived long flash. You follow my reasoning? Had we been outdoors, or in an open-topped car, that might have been a possible solution...an astronomical 'star-shell' drifting down to us. But again, I stress, this had no ray-traceable aspect, no point of origin outwith the car that was descernably-different from the car, or us.

It was that intimate closeness that would make me wonder about vague explanations such as earthlights or ball lightning (I will say that I am a hardened skeptic, moderated solely by a few inexplicable personal experiences, as per the above)

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effects of any kind?

Fanari_Lloyd, no, not that I am aware of. No 'damascus gnosis', hair loss or flashbacks of forgotten segments.

And nothing like
of Sheldon wrote:
...he's just one lab accident away from becoming a super-hero
...if anything it made me feel more mortal and tiny. An ant within the candle >shivers< (but at least I can attempt redemption via analysis)
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 12:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminds me of a story that I was told by a colleague back in the late 1990s although the story took place back in the 60s or 70s I think, none of which is relevant.

This person along with two mates were driving through the Welsh countryside, hilly area but not mountainous exactly as I recall it. Anyway this person told me that as they drove into a small valley the entire place was illuminated by a very bright green light. As far as I remember it lasted as long as they were in the valley but disappeared as they left.

Not exactly the same I know but still a long lasting inexplicable light in the countryside.

I've always believed that what these people experienced was some sort of Earth light. As per the Berwyn incident. Frankly #I'd be inclined to go for this explanation with your incident too.
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 17:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

This exact thing is on occasion known to correspond with UFO encounters. I've come across this bizarre occurrence several times in my research and so, at least for me, it's somewhat apparent that you were in close proximity to some unknown craft that night. Obviously there's no way to be certain, but it's my hunch. I would have been knocking on doors.
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 18:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Human_84!
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 20:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldrover wrote:
I've always believed that what these people experienced was some sort of Earth light. As per the Berwyn incident. Frankly #I'd be inclined to go for this explanation with your incident too.


Yes! I've read this whole thread thinking this, but you beat me to it.
I reckon it was an earth light caused by piezoelectric activity in the rocks...
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 20:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mythopoeika wrote:
oldrover wrote:
I've always believed that what these people experienced was some sort of Earth light. As per the Berwyn incident. Frankly #I'd be inclined to go for this explanation with your incident too.


Yes! I've read this whole thread thinking this, but you beat me to it.
I reckon it was an earth light caused by piezoelectric activity in the rocks...


But UFOs are more fun! Wink No that does seem like a perfectly reasonable Occamesque solution.
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 20:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mythopoeika wrote:

I reckon it was an earth light caused by piezoelectric activity in the rocks...


I understand the physics behind this concept, but am curious as to why it doesn't happen more often? If it is a repeatable geological event, I mean.

I'm unsure if we drove into it, or it enveloped us (the white light, that is).

(Mythopoeika, may I ask if you are a Woodroffe fan, because of your forum name? I certainly am, since his first artwork in the early '70s)
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PostPosted: 04-02-2014 20:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ermintrude wrote:
(Mythopoeika, may I ask if you are a Woodroffe fan, because of your forum name? I certainly am, since his first artwork in the early '70s)


Yes! I derived the name from Woodroffe's 'Mythopoeikon' - a great work.
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Mythopoeika wrote:

Yes! I derived the name from Woodroffe's 'Mythopoeikon' - a great work.


Excellent! One of my all-time favourites, haven't seen my copy for years, though. And it means something like the lifetime's flashback final view captured in the eye of someone, as they leave this plane of existence?
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