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Anonymous
PostPosted: 28-10-2002 16:06    Post subject: Horse Mutilations Reply with quote

The RSPCA is now saying that horse mutilations are linked to witchcraft and paganism...
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/28-10-19102-23-59-20.html
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 28-10-2002 16:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thing they aren't happening near christmas or easter, or they'd be blaming those pesky christians roll eyes (sarcastic)
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 28-10-2002 16:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair they don't actually accuse pagans or witches. They point out a link between the significance of symbolism and timing that has occured in the attacks. Much like several serial killers have employed symbolism borrowed from the bible, but could by no means be called Christian in denomination or behaviour.

Unfortunately, because paganism is a blanket term for a diverse groups of religious beliefs and witchcraft has associations with wiccanism but has very different historical and cultural connotations this can lead to a large community being tarred with the same brush.
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Caroline
PostPosted: 28-10-2002 16:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Horse incidents do seem to occur in flurries and they have started again now before Hallowe'en"
When have these previous 'flurries' occurred? Around other pagan festivals or has there been no previous 'pattern'?Does anyone out there know?
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 28-10-2002 17:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

These allegations are based on a report issued by something called the National Equine Welfare Society. I've been to their website and can't find any mention of it. There's nothing about it on any of the other animal welfare sites that I've tried. So we have no idea at the moment of what this report actually says - if it exists at all.
The quote about attacks happening around pagan festivals "between October and Easter" doesn't make me confident that whoever wrote it knows anything at all about paganism or pagan festivals.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 29-10-2002 10:47    Post subject: Update Reply with quote

Karin Attwood of the Rollrights Trust has been investigating this story and has asked everyone to post this from her:
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the lady who runs the British Equine Assoc happens to live in the same town as me and I've been talking to her most of this evening...
She at no time mentioned the word Pagan - this news item has come about as the result of an internal email asking members to report anything unusual to do with attacks on horse following a spate of attacks in the Notts area.
Someone (not sure who) suggested that the attacks coincided with the Pagan Calendar. All she was trying to do was build a profile of when, where and what.... The mention of the word Pagan seems to have originated in Scotland by some person who did not realise that a whole community of people use the
title to describe themselves. The lady concerned has since apologised.
Indeed the Scottish PF is jointly investigating the attacks with the animal protection group. An offer of the same has been made an accepted by the British Equine Assoc'.

So, it's another case of ignorance... (Wish the Beeb would stop quoting bloody Kevin Carlyon as an expert on Paganism)
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PostPosted: 25-06-2003 13:48    Post subject: Why horse attacks? Reply with quote

Another story on "black magic" horse attacks - can anyone shed light on what traditions would encourage this and why?
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PostPosted: 25-06-2003 14:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't belive such attacks are being carried out by any serious groups, aside from all the respect for nature practised by the majority of occult/pagan groups, who in their right mind would think that a savage attack on a horse could possibly have spiritual meaning?!

I think it's either bored/drugged up teens or people with a sick fetish.

Kitty.
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PostPosted: 25-06-2003 14:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what traditions would encourage this and why?


Nothing specific, really.

Any 'experts' claiming otherwise are just attention seeking.
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PostPosted: 25-06-2003 14:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with KittyRice. Who ever is doing this has no respect for life or nature whatsoever.Mad
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PostPosted: 25-06-2003 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too think it is sick individuals rather than any organised group.

The thing that always puzzles me is why do the horses allow it to happen? They're intellient, powerful creatures confused

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PostPosted: 25-06-2003 14:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but if there are enough people I imagine it's possible to subdue them.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 25-06-2003 19:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They're intellient, powerful creatures
Well they're certainly powerful. Are they intelligent? I'm not sure.

Horses are certainly strange, lovely and enigmatic. But if they're intelligent - then they're intelligent in a way I don't understand. They seem to have a completely different perception.

They're so strange and sensitive. Like how a particular route can spook them for no obvious reason. Or a particular branch or bit of hedge. Very difficult to figure them out.
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Anonymous
PostPosted: 25-06-2003 20:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses largely speaking are really quite evil, and this is a person speaking from experience, having fallen off a horse three times already ! Still doesn't put me off riding though, and of course horses are yummy to eat too............
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PostPosted: 26-06-2003 14:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses are intelligent but their way of thinking is that of an animal adapted to living on open plains and trying not to get eaten by lions - most of the behaviours that seem weird to us are logical consequences of that. They learn very fast though if you can explain what you are trying to teach them in terms they understand.

I suspect the majority of attacks are happening in stables, where the horses can't get away.

My impression was that it is likely to be some satanism obsessed psychopath rather than a part of any genuine magical tradition, but I thought people here would know if it was.
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