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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 31-10-2002 09:00 Post subject: Volcano |
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Now that Mount Etna is erupting again (brilliant satellite photos on the link) it seems a good time to ask whether there are any good Fortean stories about volcanoes. Or have we become so used to the scientific descriptions of them that they no longer have an other worldly aura?
Certainly in the past they were regarded as manifestations of the gods; more recently SF writers thought extinct volcanoes might lead to the centre of the Earth.
Historically they have been considered as the cause of the downfall of civilizations, in the Med and elsewhere. Then there are tales of Pompei and Herculaneum.
Volcano stories please! |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 31-10-2002 23:11 Post subject: |
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I have just watched 'Time Team', which was about the wreck of HMS Colossus in the Scilly Isles. It seems the ship was bringing back from Naples an archaeological collection belonging to Sir William Hamilton (husband of Emma, the lover of Lord Nelson).
William was an amateur archaeologist who had taken part in excavations in Pompeii and Herculaneum....
What are the chances of that happening, eh? |
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marionXXX Un-Gnoing Joined: 03 Nov 2001 Total posts: 2922 Location: Keighley, W Yorks Age: 48 Gender: Female |
Posted: 31-10-2002 23:32 Post subject: |
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| Cool pics-seems Europe is hotting up a bit recently , with the Earthquakes here and in Italy and Mt Etna going off . Wonder if it the start if a trend ? |
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 01-11-2002 00:03 Post subject: |
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Certainly seems that way, the nearest plate margin which could cause fault movement like that seen in Manchester area is the Africa/Europe plate.....the Mid Atlantic ridge isnt that powerful.
So yea theres probably been an increase in subduction of these two plates causing the recent activity |
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 01-11-2002 09:30 Post subject: |
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Personally I find the idea of the Yellowstone National Park Super Volcano a bit worrying.
I remember stories a few years ago about a Park Surveyor taking ordnance levels of a lake a few years apart.
He was perplexed as to why some trees that were at the lake's edge were now standing in water - he thought that the lake was probably fuller than it had been, until he compared levels.
He found that the ground around the lake had bulged and the water had literaly slid downhill a bit.
Further reasearch showed that around a quarter of the Park was atop a huge magma bubble (I think it's called a batholith?) which is set to explode and wreak havoc upon the Earth.
Another extinction factor. Great.
Here's a link
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naitaka Realistic action figure Joined: 21 Aug 2001 Total posts: 437 Location: Fort Rouille, New France Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 01-11-2002 15:24 Post subject: |
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| The earthquake activity around Naples is worrisome. In addition to Vesuvius, there is a potentially very dangerous volcanic area called the Campi Flegrei complex. |
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 03-11-2002 12:31 Post subject: |
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| Quicksilver wrote: |
Personally I find the idea of the Yellowstone National Park Super Volcano a bit worrying.
I remember stories a few years ago about a Park Surveyor taking ordnance levels of a lake a few years apart.
He was perplexed as to why some trees that were at the lake's edge were now standing in water - he thought that the lake was probably fuller than it had been, until he compared levels.
He found that the ground around the lake had bulged and the water had literaly slid downhill a bit.
Further reasearch showed that around a quarter of the Park was atop a huge magma bubble (I think it's called a batholith?) which is set to explode and wreak havoc upon the Earth.
Another extinction factor. Great.
Here's a link |
Basically you got it all there in a nut shell, batholith....not entirely correct but by no means incorrect, tis called a Caldera or 'Super Volcano'....basically America is sitting on a bomb which has in geological terms already had its last tick, we just waiting for the boom now. Its unlikely to cause extinction of us....however 90% of america will be destroyed. If we get hit by a commet straight afterwards then yea basically we all done for.
Strangely as a geologist id like to see this happen in my life time, but as a human, im dreading it. Its a strange mix of emmotions. |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 03-11-2002 13:34 Post subject: |
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| Billyjoe wrote: |
Strangely as a geologist id like to see this happen in my life time, but as a human, im dreading it. Its a strange mix of emmotions. | No doubt the Taliban and similarly minded folk would like to see it too, and would consider it a judgement of Allah on the infidel... |
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caroleaswas Diva Mentalis Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Total posts: 4607 Age: 8 Gender: Female |
Posted: 03-11-2002 16:38 Post subject: |
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Good theory by the Moslem extremists, Rynner, it's a shame that one of the active volcanic areas (around Indonesia) has a large Moslem population. What will happen to them when/if Anak Krakatau and its like explode? Will Allah perhaps come down in a chariot of fire and whisk them all to safety, leaving the infidels behind?
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 04-11-2002 19:55 Post subject: volcano power |
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Anybody ever seen a halfway feasible way of controlling or using the power of volcanoes?
outside of Bond films, that is
steve b |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 04-11-2002 20:20 Post subject: Re: volcano power |
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| Eburacum45 wrote: |
Anybody ever seen a halfway feasible way of controlling or using the power of volcanoes? |
I believe in Iceland they have at least one power station which uses volcanic heat.
Here's an amusing article about a Guardian cock-up reporting on the subject.
There has even been investigation into the possibility of exporting electric power from Iceland to Norway and Britain - it's green and renewable, but not currently economic.
On another site I found this, pointing out the dangers in a volcanic environment:
Krafla Geothermal Power Station
Krafla Power Station went on steam 1977. Production capacity is 60 MW with two turbines
Krafla fires
A series of nine volcanic eruptions began near the station 1975 and lasted until 1984. No harm was done.
The Blue Lagoon
Waste water from the geothermal power station is used for bathing and production of skin lotions.
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 05-11-2002 11:26 Post subject: |
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| Years ago - well the early 80's anyway - when I was at school I'm sure I remember reading/being told (probably in a geology lesson) about a plan to tap into geothermal energy in Cornwall. There's a large batholith under Cornwall which is stilll comparatively warm and the idea was to sink a shaft down and use the heat to power turbines. Obviously nothing ever came of it, but I've always wondered whether it might one day be practical - and it's as 'green' as it's possible to get. |
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lopaka3 Great Old One Joined: 17 Sep 2001 Total posts: 2154 Location: Near the corner of a Big Continent Gender: Male |
Posted: 05-11-2002 13:03 Post subject: |
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Well, not strictly Fortean, but have had a couple of quite trippy volcano experiences. Just walking around the caldera of Kilauea is VERY weird, seeing where the Earth is being created and all that, plus sulphur banks, and the rest....very odd. And sleeping at 10,000 ft on Mauna Loa, seeing a field of stars one never knew existed is a once in a lifetime experience. Otherworldly in the extreme.
There was some talk of a geothermal power plant off of the Big Island of Hawai'i some years ago, but I don't believe it ever got off the ground, so to speak. |
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 05-11-2002 18:52 Post subject: |
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| Prospect wrote: |
Years ago - well the early 80's anyway - when I was at school I'm sure I remember reading/being told (probably in a geology lesson) about a plan to tap into geothermal energy in Cornwall. There's a large batholith under Cornwall which is stilll comparatively warm and the idea was to sink a shaft down and use the heat to power turbines. Obviously nothing ever came of it, but I've always wondered whether it might one day be practical - and it's as 'green' as it's possible to get. |
I do believe that actually went ahead, remember seeing a little clip of something in the Cornwall area just as you describe, will look it up |
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 05-11-2002 18:57 Post subject: |
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| lopaka wrote: |
There was some talk of a geothermal power plant off of the Big Island of Hawai'i some years ago, but I don't believe it ever got off the ground, so to speak. |
The Americans tried to drill to the centre of the Earth on Hawai, was called the Mohole Project, surfice to say it didnt get very far |
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