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Posted: 03-12-2002 18:48 Post subject: Irish data laws

Story in The Irish Times (detailed below).

Department to store data on citizens for four years

Detailed personal data on every Irish citizen's phone and mobile calls, faxes, and e-mail and Internet usage will be retained for up to four years under a new Department of Justice Bill, writes Karlin Lillington

The Bill, which is being drafted and which the Minister, Mr McDowell, hopes to implement by next spring, requires that personal electronic data be retained for two to four years. At present, data may only be retained for a short period, exclusively for billing purposes - generally, three to six months - and then must be destroyed.

"We have serious concerns that this is treating everybody as a potential suspect in a crime," said Mr Malachy Murphy, e-rights convener with the Irish Council for Civil Liberties. "This would also appear to go against the European Convention on Human Rights, which has explicit protections for citizen privacy."

Data produced by digital networks can be highly revealing, while 3G mobile phone networks, with phones which regularly broadcast their location back to the network, will provide information on where a person is standing to within a few metres. The legislation could also demand that Internet service providers store information on all the individual web pages a subscriber has visited over four years.

It is understood that Department officials failed to consult any organisation other than the Garda Síochána in preparing legislation which would in effect overturn existing EU data protection directives. The Bill would also run counter to data protection provisions within the State's E-Commerce Act 2000 - considered essential for creating a supportive e-commerce environment where businesses and consumers can trust how their private information is stored and handled.

Officials within the Department of Justice are understood to be seeking a legal regime similar to that mandated by Britain's controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Act.

In Britain, aspects of RIP are being rewritten after strong opposition to the initial Act from the House of Lords, the business community, privacy advocacy groups and the British media. The British government had to withdraw additional legislation dealing with the same areas of data retention as the Irish Bill after this provoked widespread outrage and anger.

"The RIP Act was incredibly controversial when passed, but that was nothing compared to the opposition to data retention," said Mr Ian Brown, director of British policy for the Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR).

"Creating a huge database that is lying there for years is a huge invitation for government misuse, much more for hackers, blackmailers, criminals and others."

Mr Brown said Britain and the Republic have been under pressure from American surveillance agencies such as the CIA and FBI to loosen protections on data privacy.

The Department of Justice did not respond to questions about the Bill's details.

Posted: 03-12-2002 21:34 Post subject:

Data collection happens because it is easy. Sifting it costs.

Once someone becomes a target for the attentions of the State,
they can expect their electronic doings to be picked over, like turds
in a lab.

Watch your diet! Surprised

Posted: 03-12-2002 23:46 Post subject:

See also this thread.

But I'm not worried by such stuff. It takes me all my time to live my life - it will take someone else just as much time to monitor it. There is no way people can be monitored 24/7 - it's just not possible for everybody, because you'd need too many monitors.

But then, I lead a blameless life! (Apart from planning to murder certain people, whose names I will not reveal here...)

But if I was involved in nefarious doings, probably the internet would be able to trace my activity, but only after the event - by which time I'd have had the plastic surgery, changed my name, and moved far away.