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PostPosted: 31-05-2011 21:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less of the crypto-zoology. I feel a little deflated every time I see there's yet another piece by Karl Shuker in the magazine. No offence to Dr Shuker, I just find the discovery of some new trilobite to be extremely tedious.

I tend to think the mag has declined in quality in the past few years, but that's probably because things like the UFO phenomenon has died a whimpering death, and people have realised Most Haunted is a big pile of crap in which nothing ever happens.
Not so much of Fortean interest around to write about these days?


Oh yeah, stop reviewing silly Japanese movies. If pages must be filled what about a "Fortean website of the month" or similar?
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PostPosted: 01-06-2011 02:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

A return of the Weird Web page would be good...
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PostPosted: 01-06-2011 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiocletianX wrote:
Less of the crypto-zoology. I feel a little deflated every time I see there's yet another piece by Karl Shuker in the magazine. No offence to Dr Shuker, I just find the discovery of some new trilobite to be extremely tedious.

I tend to think the mag has declined in quality in the past few years, but that's probably because things like the UFO phenomenon has died a whimpering death, and people have realised Most Haunted is a big pile of crap in which nothing ever happens.
Not so much of Fortean interest around to write about these days?


Oh yeah, stop reviewing silly Japanese movies. If pages must be filled what about a "Fortean website of the month" or similar?


Have to admit that I enjoy the CZ stuff. Not so much Ghost stuff, first time in ages I enjoyed GW in the current issue. Perhaps too much UFO stuff which doesnt amount to anything.

More conspiracy! Give Robin Ramsey a full page each issue.
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PostPosted: 13-08-2011 16:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiocletianX wrote:
Less of the crypto-zoology. I feel a little deflated every time I see there's yet another piece by Karl Shuker in the magazine. No offence to Dr Shuker, I just find the discovery of some new trilobite to be extremely tedious.

I tend to think the mag has declined in quality in the past few years, but that's probably because things like the UFO phenomenon has died a whimpering death, and people have realised Most Haunted is a big pile of crap in which nothing ever happens.
Not so much of Fortean interest around to write about these days?


Oh yeah, stop reviewing silly Japanese movies. If pages must be filled what about a "Fortean website of the month" or similar?


I agree wholeheartedly. CZ isn't really Fortean as it can easily be explained. I know that there must be some still unknown species around, so what. Surely there are nature magazines that could cover things like that.
Ghosts should be interesting but they seem to be covered in a very boring way. I don't even read those pages any more. As a matter of fact FT magazine has become so boring and behind the news [I usually know most news a months before they are printed] that I cancelled my subscription after many years. I have been reading FT since 1990, when it was still interesting. Now I get my forteana from this website or the internet in general. Shame but true.
If anyone would like to know what could bring me back:
- In depth and interesting articles about various fortean phenomena
- no more news clips or Crypto Zoology
- Interviews with people who were [or think they were] abducted/ had an encounter etc
- No more Archaeological bits unless they find part of a spaceship
- Articles about quantum physics and it implications on ghosts/ timeslips/ ufo's etc
- Yes, more conspiracy!
- More personal stories from readers [but then there would be no money to be made selling the highly priced books].
- No more boring Victorian stuff and get rid of Barry Baldwin's Classical corner. That bloke can't write for the life of him. Or at least get someone else to write it.
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PostPosted: 14-12-2011 22:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dingo667 wrote:
DiocletianX wrote:
Less of the crypto-zoology. I feel a little deflated every time I see there's yet another piece by Karl Shuker in the magazine. No offence to Dr Shuker, I just find the discovery of some new trilobite to be extremely tedious.

I tend to think the mag has declined in quality in the past few years, but that's probably because things like the UFO phenomenon has died a whimpering death, and people have realised Most Haunted is a big pile of crap in which nothing ever happens.
Not so much of Fortean interest around to write about these days?


Oh yeah, stop reviewing silly Japanese movies. If pages must be filled what about a "Fortean website of the month" or similar?


I agree wholeheartedly. CZ isn't really Fortean as it can easily be explained. I know that there must be some still unknown species around, so what. Surely there are nature magazines that could cover things like that.
Ghosts should be interesting but they seem to be covered in a very boring way. I don't even read those pages any more. As a matter of fact FT magazine has become so boring and behind the news [I usually know most news a months before they are printed] that I cancelled my subscription after many years. I have been reading FT since 1990, when it was still interesting. Now I get my forteana from this website or the internet in general. Shame but true.
If anyone would like to know what could bring me back:
- In depth and interesting articles about various fortean phenomena
- no more news clips or Crypto Zoology
- Interviews with people who were [or think they were] abducted/ had an encounter etc
- No more Archaeological bits unless they find part of a spaceship
- Articles about quantum physics and it implications on ghosts/ timeslips/ ufo's etc
- Yes, more conspiracy!
- More personal stories from readers [but then there would be no money to be made selling the highly priced books].
- No more boring Victorian stuff and get rid of Barry Baldwin's Classical corner. That bloke can't write for the life of him. Or at least get someone else to write it.


I'm broadly in agreement with all that (although I don't mind the archaelogy stuff, purely because I find the subject interesting!) Classical Corner I normally don't read any more - it has interesting facts in it but yeah, the writing style is incredibly tedious.
The Victorian stuff has taken a large upward trend recently and I dont even bother to read those articles now.
Conspiracy corner is very interesting, generally, yes, I could go for a much bigger section on that every month.

Crypto-zoology I am fine with IF its something like Bigfoot or even Nessie but only if its an interesting article, which doesnt seem to be the case these days. I have no interest whatsoever in a new breed of horse, a cat with three nobs, a duck with Jesus face on its arse or the amazing discovery of a a previously believed extinct sub-class of tadpole.

I get FT as a gift subscription from my mother these days having subscribed myself for years but every year I tell her not to renew it and she always does it anyway. Next time I will just ask her to subscribe me to "Guitar" magazine or "360 Gamer", I'm just really bored with FT.
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PostPosted: 14-12-2011 23:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing - instead of reviewing every crappy horror movie that comes out, or fantasy books or whatever, why not review an old classic or old best seller every month (for example something by Graham Hancock, Christopher Dunn, Robert Temple etc etc)?
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PostPosted: 15-12-2011 00:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dingo667 wrote:
DiocletianX wrote:
Less of the crypto-zoology. I feel a little deflated every time I see there's yet another piece by Karl Shuker in the magazine. No offence to Dr Shuker, I just find the discovery of some new trilobite to be extremely tedious.

I tend to think the mag has declined in quality in the past few years, but that's probably because things like the UFO phenomenon has died a whimpering death, and people have realised Most Haunted is a big pile of crap in which nothing ever happens.
Not so much of Fortean interest around to write about these days?


Oh yeah, stop reviewing silly Japanese movies. If pages must be filled what about a "Fortean website of the month" or similar?


I agree wholeheartedly. CZ isn't really Fortean as it can easily be explained. I know that there must be some still unknown species around, so what. Surely there are nature magazines that could cover things like that.
Ghosts should be interesting but they seem to be covered in a very boring way. I don't even read those pages any more. As a matter of fact FT magazine has become so boring and behind the news [I usually know most news a months before they are printed] that I cancelled my subscription after many years. I have been reading FT since 1990, when it was still interesting. Now I get my forteana from this website or the internet in general. Shame but true.
If anyone would like to know what could bring me back:
- In depth and interesting articles about various fortean phenomena
- no more news clips or Crypto Zoology
- Interviews with people who were [or think they were] abducted/ had an encounter etc
- No more Archaeological bits unless they find part of a spaceship
- Articles about quantum physics and it implications on ghosts/ timeslips/ ufo's etc
- Yes, more conspiracy!
- More personal stories from readers [but then there would be no money to be made selling the highly priced books].
- No more boring Victorian stuff and get rid of Barry Baldwin's Classical corner. That bloke can't write for the life of him. Or at least get someone else to write it.


I agree, although I do like Ghost Watch and would like more.
As said CZ is superdull unless its Nessie or bigfoot or someother more Fortean stuff.
I have never read classical corner as I find the writing style tedious in the extreme.
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PostPosted: 09-02-2012 20:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a student, both drunk and stoned I attempted to read the terms and conditions of our tenancy agreement. Half an hour later, I hadn't got past the second line. I deduced some things aren't meant to be read.

Now every issue, despite being sober and attentive, I relive the experience through Classical Corner.
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PostPosted: 09-02-2012 21:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of anywhere else I might offer this suggestion.

Subscribers to the mag are debited every six months. I can't be the only subscriber to not remember that the fee is due. Having been to the bank today, it seems that I've been debited the £19.99 that was due. Now, I don't have a problem with the renewal process being one of cancellation rather than having to opt in every six months, I'd have just appreciated a reminder a few weeks before hand. I'm not working ATM, so twenty quid coming out of my account unexpectedly is going to cause me a bit of an issue for the next couple of weeks. Had I got a reminder, I would have been able to budget for the debit, rather than spending the next couple of weeks catching up.
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PostPosted: 10-02-2012 01:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimv1 wrote:
As a student, both drunk and stoned I attempted to read the terms and conditions of our tenancy agreement. Half an hour later, I hadn't got past the second line. I deduced some things aren't meant to be read.

Now every issue, despite being sober and attentive, I relive the experience through Classical Corner.


It took me about a year to get my dainty little head around Classical Corner, but I've found it worth the effort - even if I do leave it to last to read, like the unwanted Brussell Sprouts at dinner time!
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PostPosted: 01-01-2013 21:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit of a geek, so I LIKE the cryto zoology stuff, and the archaeological stuff!

The only thing my boyfriend reads in my FT is the games reviews, he's been complaining about the lack of them recently!
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PostPosted: 02-01-2013 23:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daftbugger1 wrote:
I'm a bit of a geek, so I LIKE the cryto zoology stuff, and the archaeological stuff!


I'm not a big archaeology buff, but do like to read the column in the FT because it gives an insight, however small, incredibly far back in humankind's development. Makes you wonder what they were up to burying horses or whatever, and knowing we'll probably never know for sure.
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blackhand2010 wrote:
I'm a subscriber, and to be honest I'm wondering about renewing.
Over the past few months (possibly even to a year), the magazine seems to have taken a bit of a dip.

The lead articles seem flimsy at best (this months Chupacabra one takes the biscuit: an article that could have been dealt with in a few paragraphs, and isn't that convincing or indeed interesting to begin with is given front cover status).

The letters pages seem to have shrunk (though I accept this could be due fewer letters actually being received), and any good IHTM stories seemed to have been siphoned off for use in the spin off books.

There are also fewer DVD reviews, though again, I accept, not being a widely read publication they're less likely to get freebies from the studios.

In all there just seems to be less generally in the magazine than there once was.

Rant over...


Somewhat in agreement.

The IHTM page is the first I turn to, in eager anticipation, yet they do indeed appear to a shadow of those in years gone by.

Jenny Randles is always a good read, however, David Clark and Andy Roberts are clearly non-believers. Nothing wrong with that, except that I find their approach, and conclusions, patronising.

They seem to belong to a new breed of revisionist skeptics who will take an historic, unsolved case, and then attempt to weave around it their own pre-determined "It was swamp gas" outcome.

An example of this revisionism would be the Bob Taylor case, in which the solution involves Taylor ingesting deadly nightshade, hallucinating a water tower as the UFO and being attacked by his own dog (oh really?). Also, despite Taylor stating the object was fading in and out of 'existence' i.e. some sort of invisibility device, the lack of corroborating witnesses from the adjacent motorway, is used as evidence to debunk the case.

No harm in giving Clark and Roberts their own Skeptics Corner, or whatever, but at the moment it is very much like Richard Dawkins editing the Catholic Herald...
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PostPosted: 09-01-2013 11:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dingo667 wrote:
DiocletianX wrote:
Less of the crypto-zoology. I feel a little deflated every time I see there's yet another piece by Karl Shuker in the magazine. No offence to Dr Shuker, I just find the discovery of some new trilobite to be extremely tedious.

I tend to think the mag has declined in quality in the past few years, but that's probably because things like the UFO phenomenon has died a whimpering death, and people have realised Most Haunted is a big pile of crap in which nothing ever happens.
Not so much of Fortean interest around to write about these days?


Oh yeah, stop reviewing silly Japanese movies. If pages must be filled what about a "Fortean website of the month" or similar?


I agree wholeheartedly. CZ isn't really Fortean as it can easily be explained. I know that there must be some still unknown species around, so what. Surely there are nature magazines that could cover things like that.
Ghosts should be interesting but they seem to be covered in a very boring way. I don't even read those pages any more. As a matter of fact FT magazine has become so boring and behind the news [I usually know most news a months before they are printed] that I cancelled my subscription after many years. I have been reading FT since 1990, when it was still interesting. Now I get my forteana from this website or the internet in general. Shame but true.
If anyone would like to know what could bring me back:
- In depth and interesting articles about various fortean phenomena
- no more news clips or Crypto Zoology
- Interviews with people who were [or think they were] abducted/ had an encounter etc
- No more Archaeological bits unless they find part of a spaceship
- Articles about quantum physics and it implications on ghosts/ timeslips/ ufo's etc
- Yes, more conspiracy!
- More personal stories from readers [but then there would be no money to be made selling the highly priced books].
- No more boring Victorian stuff and get rid of Barry Baldwin's Classical corner. That bloke can't write for the life of him. Or at least get someone else to write it.


Very good post, really sums up how I feel, with the exception of Cryptozoology if it applies to the Mongolian Death Worm or whatever Shocked

If FT is to survive the digital age, it surely needs to be more proactive and less responsive i.e. less Clark and Reynolds picking the bones of old UFO cases, in a patronising and skeptical manner

There are a lot of good authors out there who are unearthing new witnesses to modern-day Fortean phenomenon, yet too often their findings are relegated to the book reviews only.
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PostPosted: 09-01-2013 19:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not necessarily, Clarke and Roberts usually get one page per issue (if you can call it that), and a lot of the articles these days are adapted extracts from new Fortean books.
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