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PostPosted: 24-07-2004 17:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the Candiru.
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PostPosted: 24-07-2004 17:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it real?
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PostPosted: 24-07-2004 17:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's exactly what I was just wondering. Burroughs could have made it up for all I know.
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PostPosted: 24-07-2004 17:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it makes a change from the usual "deer with different antlers" species you usually get.
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PostPosted: 24-07-2004 19:43    Post subject: Re: New Brazillian fish species Reply with quote

Emperor wrote:

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/06/18/brazil.newfis.ap/index.html


link doesnt work emps
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PostPosted: 29-07-2004 17:59    Post subject: better late than never Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17-08-2004 12:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't quite know where to post this. I love reading reports where a new animal or plant is 'discovered' by science, only to have been known to native peoples for centuries upon centuries.

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New bird spotted in Philippines
By Alex Kirby
BBC News Online environment correspondent

An international expedition has found a bird species new to science on a remote island in the northern Philippines.

The team of Filipino and UK researchers discovered the bird, a rail, living by a stream in the forests of Calayan.

They think the birds number only about 200 pairs at most, and since they are found nowhere else they might soon be at risk from development pressures.

They say the Calayan rail is flightless "or nearly so": it belongs to a global family including coots and moorhens.

Chance discovery

The expedition was funded by the UK-based Oriental Bird Club and the Rufford Small Grant Committee.

Rufford Small Grants are UK awards of up to £5,000 (,215) aimed at small conservation programmes and pilot projects.

The discovery of the Calayan rail is described in Forktail, a journal of Asian ornithology published by the OBC.

The researchers, the Babuyan Islands expedition team, were surveying the birds, mammals, reptiles and amphibians of the Babuyan group at the northern end of the Philippines archipelago.

On 11 May one of the team, Carmela Espanola, was walking in the forest almost 1,000 feet (300 m) up the slopes of Calayan when she spotted a small group of unfamiliar dark brown birds with distinctive orange-red bills and legs near a stream.

Her notes and photographs, with her recordings of their loud, harsh and rasping calls, helped to establish that the birds were new to science, though not to the island's people, who call them "piding".

The team saw adult and juvenile birds several times over the next few days round their rainforest camp, and estimated there are probably 100-200 pairs in the area, which contains coralline limestone outcrops, caves and small streams.

Reluctant aviator

In order to register the rail as a new species the expedition had to kill one bird, and when they dissected it they found its flight muscles were too weak to carry it far, prompting their conclusion that it is "almost" flightless.

Richard Thomas, or BirdLife International, told BBC News Online: "The Calayan rail has never been seen to fly, but it may be like the Okinawa rail, which flutters up into the trees like a chicken in order to roost."

Of the 20 species or subspecies of rail that have become extinct since 1600, 90% were flightless.

Most members of the rail family are waterbirds, though in tropical parts of Asia many are forest dwellers like the Calayan rail.

Genevieve Broad, the co-leader of the expedition, said: "I felt sure the Babuyan Islands would hold some interesting discoveries, but I didn't expect to find a totally new species.

Alien threats

"I hope this will bring the recognition these islands deserve as an important site of biological diversity."

The island's population numbers about 8,500 people, and there is thought to be no imminent threat to the rails.

But conservationists are concerned that new roads around the island and to its centre could mean new settlements, habitat loss and introduced predators like cats and rats, which have been implicated in most flightless rail extinctions.

Close-up images courtesy and copyright of Des Allen, rail in forest by Carmela Espanola .


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/3569160.stm

Published: 2004/08/16 23:00:14 GMT

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PostPosted: 17-08-2004 13:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening to the news report this morning, it would appear the the planned new road is part of an attempt to bring more tourism to the Island which is about 70 miles north of the main Island of the Philipines, so it may very well be "hello and goodbye" to the Calayan rail, but I hope not.
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PostPosted: 17-08-2004 15:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In order to register the rail as a new species the expedition had to kill one bird


Does anyone know why this is so? Seems if there are only 200 pairs of these birds, why kill even one?
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PostPosted: 17-08-2004 15:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leandra wrote:

Does anyone know why this is so? Seems if there are only 200 pairs of these birds, why kill even one?


I should think it is to ensure that it was physically/genetically different to other species that they were already aware of.

Plus they could then try and find which genus it would fit into.



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IMO it does appear to be a shame that this was the only way that they could do this.


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I once watched a TV programme where some researchers on a boat thought they had discovered a new species if fish. The only difference with this fish is that it had an extra rib. They drag netted 100s and 100s of fish, killed them and cut them open to count the ribs and find out how many of these fish had this and to check it was not just one freak they found (it wasn't). They all looked really pleased with themselves as well.Dead / drunk
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Leandra wrote:

Does anyone know why this is so? Seems if there are only 200 pairs of these birds, why kill even one?


The rules for naming species specify that a holotype, or 'type specimen' must exist in a museum collection somewhere, so that researchers can use this as a reference point when referring to this species in the future.
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PostPosted: 19-08-2004 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would happen then if they discovered a new species of hominid that was nearly as intelligent as humans, or even captured an alien?!

"We come in peace! Oh, and we just need one of you for a museum, otherwise we can't recognise you exist." Blam!
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PostPosted: 05-10-2004 11:25    Post subject: Newly Discovered Reply with quote

As we don't appear to have a thread dedicated to newly discovered animals, I thought I'd start one

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Leech found in Salem County may be scientific breakthrough

Monday, October 4, 2004

By KIM MULFORD
Courier-Post Staff
ALLOWAY


Bill Ott thought he found a little black snake.
He had no idea the creature wriggling in his hands might be an undiscovered species.

Ott was mowing the lawn on a hot sunny Saturday morning in July 2003 when he noticed a 10-inch-long creature winding along a pebble-pocked dirt channel.

He scooped it up and thought it looked more like a really weird worm.

Ott took it up to the house to show his wife, Carol, who always took care of the snakes, turtles, rabbits and other creatures her husband and their 16-year-old son brought home.

When she saw the segmented ink-black thing twisting through her husband's hands, she put it in a glass bowl with rocks and water. Then she identified it as a leech.

But it was nothing like the leeches she used to pull off her legs after swimming in the local pond.

One difference was its size. When stretched out, it was about a foot long, with a sucker on one end and a pointy head on the other.

And unlike other leeches, it didn't like water. She spent days trying to learn more about it, losing sleep over it and worrying whether she could keep it alive.

Thinking it was a blood-sucker, she bought a baby mouse for it. When the leech ignored it, she put in some earthworms. They were gone in a half-hour.

"It was so cool," said Carol Ott, a 51-year-old secretary.

The Otts' leech is more than just cool, said Dan Shain, an evolutionary biologist at Rutgers-Camden and one of the few leech experts in the country.

Shain said he believes it might be a new species of Haemopis, a North American terrestrial leech.

Most leeches are aquatic. The much-rarer terrestrial variety usually live in the tropics. Until now, the only North American terrestrial leech could be found mostly in the Midwest, South and Southeast.

When Carol found Shain on the Internet and e-mailed him about her discovery, he didn't believe it.

"I thought two things," Shain said. "That Carol was just making it up or that her neighbor had gotten an exotic pet and it had escaped."

When Carol Ott then took the leech to Shain's house, the laid-back scientist from Berkeley, Calif., was quite excited by what she delivered to his door.

Shain goes on expeditions across the world to find leeches, takes students to muck around local ponds collecting specimens and recently won a 5,000 grant from the National Science Foundation to study the cocoons of leeches.

But he had never seen anything like this.

"This is one of the biggest leeches found in North America, period," Shain said.

If only they could find another one.

Leeches are related to worms; they are hermaphroditic, with both male and female reproductive organs.

After a year living in the lap of luxury in Shain's lab, Piwi - as he is affectionately called - has yet to reproduce. Last year, Piwi made two egg cases but there was nothing inside.

Without a mate for Piwi, there is little that can be done to learn more about him. A second leech would mean a colony could be grown and allow Shain to dissect the creature and conduct a DNA analysis.

"I'm actually quite desperate to find another one," Shain said.

Without more specimens, it can't be determined whether this is a new species, said Mark J. Wetzel, a research scientist with the Illinois Natural History Survey's Center for Biodiversity in Champaign, Ill.

Shain called Wetzel to ask about the Otts' discovery.

Wetzel is curator of a collection of worms that includes the only known terrestrial leech in North America, the Haemopis terrestris. That leech is gray with black and yellow markings.

Wetzel described Shain as a good scientist who wouldn't identify something as possibly being a new species unless Shain really thought it was.

If it is a new species, Wetzel said, that's of high interest to scientists who work with annelids.

"He was hoping to find more," Wetzel said. "I wished him good hunting."

Piwi is treated like a king. His water, a saline solution, is changed every few days.

Piwi also lives at room temperature in his own tank rather than in a refrigerator with hundreds of other leeches Shain stores. That's because Shain isn't sure how Piwi would respond to lower temperatures.

Piwi also is fed a fat, hand-picked earthworm every other week.

Shain, who uses latex gloves when handling Piwi so he won't get sick, has made observations even with just a single specimen.

For one thing, Piwi has very sharp teeth and can be downright barbaric when it comes to eating.

"If you put a worm in there, he'll just suck it down



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PostPosted: 05-10-2004 13:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ewwwww, run away! run away!!

Odd story that, wonder if a meteor crashed anywhere near where Piwi was found?
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