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theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 18-05-2003 20:23 Post subject: Kooky Kent |
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Strange Neighbourhood?
I've lived in Kent since the age of four and have always had an interest in the outre and unexplained but i never seem to find many cases 'close to home' as it were. Can anyone enlighten me as to any local Forteana without reference to either Pluckley or the Bluebell Hill mysteries (interesting but familiar cases). |
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hallybods Mashed Monkey Student of the Arts-egad! Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Total posts: 541 Location: Existential Orphans Home Age: 45 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 18-05-2003 21:08 Post subject: |
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Let me see. I'm in Dartford and there are some really strange stuff going on.
In Swanscombe woods there's a monolith that's only seen on ancient maps and not on any new ones. It's supposed to be a public right of way, but every now and again people get chased away from it by security guards.
I was told a story some years back about Ingress Abbey in Greenhithe. It was in some disrepair for quite a number of years and the then owners where being forced to do it up. They invited a carpenter to price up some restoration. He wanted to take some photos and decided to take his girlfriend along too. They walked around until they came to the big mirror that, until fairly recently was still standing in the hallway. He took a picture of her standing infront of the said mirror. When the film was developed all the pictures except that one was ok, the last one showed loads of faces staring from behind the girlfriend.
I actually approached the caretaker, who was a local historian, about that story and he went really quiet and changed the subject. I could not draw him any further on it.
There are loads of other stories about the area, but I'm a bit knackered and can't remember them off the top of my head. When I'm a bit more with it I'll post them. |
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| Anonymous |
Posted: 20-05-2003 05:32 Post subject: |
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| hallybods wrote: |
I was told a story some years back about Ingress Abbey in Greenhithe. |
Something else of interest about Ingress Abbey:
From http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/history/story/0,6000,792164,00.html
"Sinclair develops an outrageous and resilient metaphor in his book - via William Harvey and Harefield hospital - of the London ringroad pulsing blood. Purfleet links that to the vampire myth. 'The count had his base just down here,' he says, pointing across the river at the sunlit façade of Ingress Abbey opposite. 'This place had a park landscaped by Capability Brown: grottoes and follies in the woods. Now it's all been swamped by Barratt and Fairview estate boxes. I believe Ingress is the mirror image of Dracula's abbey, though. I think Stoker transposed it to the opposite side of the river, made it this little church we are coming to.' " |
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akaWiintermoon Great Old One Joined: 04 Jan 2002 Total posts: 994 Location: Southampton, Hampshire, UK. Age: 39 Gender: Female |
Posted: 20-05-2003 23:14 Post subject: |
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| hallybods wrote: |
He took a picture of her standing infront of the said mirror. When the film was developed all the pictures except that one was ok, the last one showed loads of faces staring from behind the girlfriend. |
I practicly cr*ped myself just reading that! I'd love to see the 'photo if anyone has any information on where it could be viewed, if available?
As to the origonal question, isn't Kent supposed to be the most haunted place in England as regards to X amounts of spooks per square yard etc? |
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H_James Ancient Cow (&) Creepy thing Joined: 18 May 2002 Total posts: 5624 |
Posted: 20-05-2003 23:16 Post subject: |
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| it depends who you listne to. devon is a good candidate. |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 20-05-2003 23:30 Post subject: |
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| Wintermoon wrote: |
As to the origonal question, isn't Kent supposed to be the most haunted place in England as regards to X amounts of spooks per square yard etc? |
I'm not sure about spooks per square yard (supernatural density?), but such a claim probably stems from the fact that Pluckley (a small village near Ashford in Kent) is supposedly the most haunted village in Britain. Googling should turn up quite a lot of info on the place if anyone is interested. |
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akaWiintermoon Great Old One Joined: 04 Jan 2002 Total posts: 994 Location: Southampton, Hampshire, UK. Age: 39 Gender: Female |
Posted: 21-05-2003 00:23 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I actually heard the info I quoted on a supernatural TV programme. I don't recall which one in particular ( Oops. ) but I do remember it showing a pub that had at least 2 - 3 spooks in it. I particually recall one in the pub kitchen who used to mess about with the lights, taps, and knives! I'm sure it was also the same place where someone claimed to have seen a pair of huge blood red eyes starring at them from the darkness of the fire place too. *shudders* |
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hallybods Mashed Monkey Student of the Arts-egad! Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Total posts: 541 Location: Existential Orphans Home Age: 45 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 21-05-2003 07:00 Post subject: |
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| Wintermoon wrote: |
I practicly cr*ped myself just reading that! I'd love to see the 'photo if anyone has any information on where it could be viewed, if available?
As to the origonal question, isn't Kent supposed to be the most haunted place in England as regards to X amounts of spooks per square yard etc? |
I have to admit that I've never looked for it as I put it down to being just an UL. But the reactions of the caretaker made me wonder if it wasn't true.
I found this about the restoration of the Abbey:
Ingress
I've also got some photos taken of the place about 5 years ago. When I've got time I'll scan them in.
It reminded me of things that happened to myself, hubby and friend. Well before they even thought about building on the site we went to have a poke around. The Grange folly is really eerie. To set the scene, it was a really hot day, the hottest of the year. As I walked towards the Grange it became increasingly cold until when I got to the folly when it became uncomfortably freezing. It was like standing in a freezer. I got a nasty feeling that I was being watched. Also a few months later we went looking in the woods behind the Abbey for remains of old buildings etc. There were dead spots, you could stand in one part of the woods and hear birds singing and traffic, you'd then take one step and all noise would stop. The dead spot would be about 10 feet wide and you could step in and out of it. There may be a natural explination but it was so bizarre.
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 21-05-2003 07:29 Post subject: |
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| hallybods wrote: |
I found this about the restoration of the Abbey:
Ingress | I certainly looks like an intriguing place.
But what's thestory behind The Cave of the Seven Heads?  |
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hallybods Mashed Monkey Student of the Arts-egad! Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Total posts: 541 Location: Existential Orphans Home Age: 45 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 21-05-2003 08:12 Post subject: |
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| rynner wrote: |
I certainly looks like an intriguing place.
But what's thestory behind The Cave of the Seven Heads? |
I believe they came from the old London Bridge. It's the first time I've seen it called by that name.
I've scanned a couple of images of the cave, but couldn't get very close. I think you can just about make them out.
My photos (click on Ingress folder) |
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Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
Posted: 21-05-2003 10:08 Post subject: |
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Here's something for you:
1927 - Witness sleeping in tent awoke during gale and saw 'round globules of fire' bouncing in tops of apple trees (Upstreet, Kent). |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 23-05-2003 08:40 Post subject: |
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| JerryB wrote: |
Here's something for you:
1927 - Witness sleeping in tent awoke during gale and saw 'round globules of fire' bouncing in tops of apple trees (Upstreet, Kent). |
I'm not sure where upstreet is offhand but have you got the source for that quote - it sounds interesting. |
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H_James Ancient Cow (&) Creepy thing Joined: 18 May 2002 Total posts: 5624 |
Posted: 23-05-2003 13:43 Post subject: |
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| My dad comes from kent. I'll ask him. |
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Posted: 23-05-2003 13:55 Post subject: |
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According to my AA, there's an Upstreet on the A28 between Canterbury and Margate... here
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H_James Ancient Cow (&) Creepy thing Joined: 18 May 2002 Total posts: 5624 |
Posted: 23-05-2003 14:15 Post subject: |
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I remember one of my cousins telling about someone dying on the rollercoaster in dreamland and leaving a ghost, but it was a lot of nothing made up to scare me, as revealed eventually.
We (myself, sister & cousin) did do a ouija board thing in Ramsgate and a sequence of events scared us all shitless for a day. Everyone else was downstairs but we were upstairs, trying to get a glass to move without human agent, which it didn't. Then we percieved taht we heard breathing outsdie the door so we called it all off and switched the light on - whereupon the aerial fell off the TV, causing us to all run downstairs. Then, when we downstairs, the CD player in the room we had been in turned on automagically. (My cousin could likely have put it on alarm clock to scare us all - in the fact the whole incident looks like several percieved things and coincidences taken the wrong way by psyched-up kids) |
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