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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
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| Quote: | | I reckon that this bloke was gay and buried in the same grave as his partner, Iane, hence the code. |
Could be that Iane stood for Jane - you rarely see Js on tombstones (an echo of Roman inscriptions?)
But she's described as consort, not wife, and I guess the stone dates from when 'Living in Sin' was taken more seriously than it is now. |
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TRUE_THOMAS Yeti Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Total posts: 31 Location: Edinburgh Age: 50 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 11-11-2008 03:09 Post subject: |
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| Yes, never thought of that. I think however, that it was a bit late for a 'J' being replace by an 'I'. Consider also that the consort's name was Iaine. A spelling like that is hardly likely to be mistaken for Jane but such spelling to the name, Iaine, Iain, Ian, Ean, remains common in Scotland to htis day. |
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| TRUE_THOMAS Yeti Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Total posts: 31 Location: Edinburgh Age: 50 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 11-11-2008 03:14 Post subject: |
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There's really no reply to this one...
Sacred to the Memory of
Major James Brush
Who was killed by the accidental discharge
of a pistol by his orderly.
Well done, good and faithful servant |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21362 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 30-08-2010 21:49 Post subject: |
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Today I visited Gwennap. The map shows just a cross (for a church without spire or tower), and I expected yet another Methodist chapel, but in fact the church is much larger and much older. It also has a separate bell tower.
But its main glory is the graveyard, with elaborately carved tombstones and many trees. Very photogenic - I'm surprised it isn't more widely known. I only explored there briefly, and I know I missed a lot, but I did notice two gravestones which included carvings of two hands clasped as in a handshake, which is unusual in my experience.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/rynner/ShakingHands.jpg
Does anyone know any more about this symbolism? |
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 31-08-2010 03:59 Post subject: |
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The instinct in all such cases, to be resisted, is to say 'it could be masonic', which of course it could...
However, a little googling (but without turning up any firm authority) suggests that the handshake represents leaving Earthly existence and welcoming the next life, while the spoked-wheel (not sure about the flower - possibly decorative) is suggestive of the cycle of life: birth - live - death - birth...
Does anyone know of a standard work on grave symbolism and epitaphs?
This may be of passing interest:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12978/12978-h/12978-h.htm
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| Number_6_uk Totally Addicted to Tea Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Total posts: 206 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 01-09-2010 00:13 Post subject: |
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| My first impression was that it could be "The sign of peace" that happens during a Roman Catholic mass (everybody does a little handshake with the people in their immediate vicinity and says "Peace be with you.") |
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| Recycled1 Great Old One Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Total posts: 1823 Location: In front of the computer! Gender: Female |
| Posted: 01-09-2010 07:49 Post subject: |
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| Number_6_uk wrote: | | My first impression was that it could be "The sign of peace" that happens during a Roman Catholic mass (everybody does a little handshake with the people in their immediate vicinity and says "Peace be with you.") |
I thought that the "sign of peace" handshaking was a fairly recent thing in Christian churches i.e. introduced within the last 60 years (my lifetime so to speak). The gravestone looks considerably older than that.
But I may be wrong.
My immediate thought was "Masonic", too. I wonder if the deceased belonged to some sort of similar order -
"The Oddfellows" or !"The Buffs" or various others.
As theyithian said, it's the little flowery circle thing that needs real investigation. |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21362 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 01-09-2010 07:56 Post subject: |
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| That particular tombstone dates from 1902. And the church is CoE, not Catholic. |
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
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| Posted: 01-09-2010 11:07 Post subject: |
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| Recycled1 wrote: | | "The Buffs" or various others. |
I'd thought that was just a regimental nickname - is there a second group of which I'm unaware? |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21362 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 01-09-2010 11:27 Post subject: |
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| theyithian wrote: | | Recycled1 wrote: | | "The Buffs" or various others. |
I'd thought that was just a regimental nickname - is there a second group of which I'm unaware? |
RAOB?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAOB |
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| Recycled1 Great Old One Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Total posts: 1823 Location: In front of the computer! Gender: Female |
| Posted: 01-09-2010 13:40 Post subject: |
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Yes -I only know about it because my late father in law belonged to it.
I gathered that it was vaguely similar to the Masons - but I wasn't told very much. |
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21362 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 29-09-2013 22:04 Post subject: |
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| Anonymous~ wrote: | | Over here in cemetaries the children's sections are often highly visible due to pinwheels, brightly colored balloons, things like that. People are rather limited with what they can do because the cemetaries have restrictive rules about what you can and can't plant on graves now, but they work around it. |
Here's a post and pic I put on the other Graveyard thread:
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1012405#1012405 |
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