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theyithian Keeping the British end up
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Posted: 26-09-2003 12:27 Post subject: |
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So good i posted it on this thread nearly 3 months ago  |
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BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 26-09-2003 18:34 Post subject: |
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| Don't mind me, I think my frontal lobes have crashed. |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 27-09-2003 10:57 Post subject: |
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Mystery of graveyard crush man | Quote: | THE death of a teenager who was crushed under a huge gravestone remains a mystery.
A coroner has appealed for someone whom she believes knows what happened to come forward.
Father-of-two Adam McNamara, aged 19, from Winton, Eccles who was just over 5ft and weighed six stone died after a one-and-a-half tonne six foot stone fell on to him.
When he was found in the graveyard of Monton Unitarian Church in Eccles last November a total of 17 graves had been damaged.
An inquest was told it would have been impossible for Adam to topple the stone alone and that three of the graves had been damaged before Adam arrived at the churchyard.
Recording an open verdict coroner Jennifer Leeming said: "I'm satisfied that he was not there alone. It is very sad that whoever was there has not seen fit to come forward and I beg them to do so for the sake of his family. I have to record an open verdict because there is insufficient evidence to reach any other conclusion."
Adam's footprint from his Rockport boot was established to be on one gravestone by a forensic scientist. It was probably his on another two, according to expert Mr Graham Baxter.
But the hearing was told Adam had the utmost respect for churchyards as he was a regular visitor to the grave of his younger brother Callum at Agecroft Cemetery.
Nightclub
Adam, a plasterer, had spent a night out with friends and workmates including a visit to Ikon nightclub in Bolton to celebrate his boss's birthday.
He was last seen by his boss at 12.45am on November 17 in the club and said he would be staying longer as he was having a good time.
It is believed he left the club sometime after 1am but police have been unable to establish how he got back to Monton. His body was found at about 8.30am on that day by a group of children.
A friend of Adam's, Ian Appleyard, from Winton said that he had joined a group of up to 15 youths drinking in the churchyard at about 10pm on November 16. When he arrived he noticed that three graves had already been vandalised.
Det Sgt Bruce Stead said Adam's death was a "puzzling case" but there was no evidence to suggest his death was suspicious.
He agreed with the coroner that on the balance of probability it was likely someone else had been in the graveyard when the stone fell on Adam.
Consultant forensic pathologist Dr Charles Wilson said: "It was a huge headstone. Adam was a small man. I can't see how he would have pushed it over alone."
Adam suffered broken ribs and fractures of the spine due to the stone falling on him but Dr Wilson said he had no other injuries which would have suggested he had been attacked before he was crushed.
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lopaka3 Great Old One Joined: 17 Sep 2001 Total posts: 2154 Location: Near the corner of a Big Continent Gender: Male |
Posted: 27-09-2003 23:09 Post subject: |
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| I was at the cemetary this afternoon. A few markers away, under the fellow's name, the inscription : "He was an autochthonous (look it up) geologist." |
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BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 20-10-2003 11:22 Post subject: Glow in the dark gravestones |
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Austrian designers develop glow-in-the-dark gravestones
An Austrian company is selling solar powered glow-in-the-dark gravestones.
The grave looks normal during the day, but once it gets dark it begins to glow.
It has a digital display allowing relatives to easily programme names, the date of death and personal blessings.
Designers working for Fuerrot have already built two graves in Vienna and Vorarlberg, including a family grave capable of holding up to 12 bodies.
The standard single version costs £3,460 and comes with a glowing gravestone, text display and a solar roof.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_830508.html
I can imagine this going down well with some of the cybergoth types! |
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Posted: 20-10-2003 11:32 Post subject: Made Up Exaggeration, For Comic Effect, Alert! |
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I like the one with a 'magic eye' operated surprise, that springs a life size, luminous green, laughing skeleton, out of the grave, like a giant 'jack-in-the-box,' when someone walks past and breaks the beam!
The electronics can also read the chip on your 'Social Security' card in your wallet and use the information it collects to talk to you on a personal level about your life, work, educational attainments, family history, etc. and using your own name! Hilarious! 
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| Spookyangel Anonymous lurker Age: 41 Gender: Female |
Posted: 20-10-2003 20:03 Post subject: |
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The title of this thread reminded me of the Only Fools and Horses ep where their mother's gravestone was painted with luminous paint. That was much cheaper than all this solar powered whatnot. :p
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BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 20-10-2003 22:35 Post subject: |
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*bounces*
Emergo! Emergo! |
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| stonedog3 Irene, Alma, Mine! Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 26-11-2003 18:16 Post subject: Old/New England USA Gravestones |
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The old New England gravestones are lovely - as well as interesting, valuable evidence etc. I learned about battleship curve distributions from them!
Anyway, I've been told that there is at least one which has a green man on it - or something which has been interpreted as such.
Casual skimming through books, sites etc hasn't made anything jump out but
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2872262588&category=3064
has it!
I'd say it was In The Green rather than sprouting, demi or any of the other types....
does anyone know which one it is? where it is? parallels? publications? anything?
Just going to email the seller but as I'm probably not buying I may not get anywhere.
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 26-11-2003 19:32 Post subject: |
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| Bump! Three gravestones merged... |
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| stonedog3 Irene, Alma, Mine! Gender: Unknown |
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escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17895 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
Posted: 24-07-2007 07:40 Post subject: |
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Search for Britain's most remarkable epitaph
By Caroline Davies
Last Updated: 2:19am BST 24/07/2007
Some choose their own. Others think it too morbid. Some boast of achievement. Others want to be modest.
They can be witty or doom-laden, long or short, informative or tell you very little that's useful. Epitaphs, from the ancient Greek literally meaning "on the gravestone" and the text that honours the deceased commonly inscribed on a tombstone, come in many forms.
But in Britain they have one thing in common - they are in danger of being lost for ever. So serious is the situation that today a campaign is being launched to try to record as many as possible before it is too late.
Each year in England 25,000 gravestones are lost and with them the important historical information they contain.
"People want nice tidy churchyards and don't want to mow around higgledy, piggledy gravestones so they move them and they break, or they lay them face down and they get forgotten then broken up for paving stones," said Richard Stuart, the director of the National Archive of Memorial Inscriptions who has made it his mission to record details of as many as possible.
"These inscriptions contain unique information not found anywhere else before the 1840s," he said. "Some people put a lot of effort into thinking exactly what they want on their tombstone. It's their last words on earth and they want them to be just right."
There are an estimated eight million graves in England but so far the details of only two million have been recorded. The number of graves in the whole of Britain could be as high as 20 million.
"The first census where records were extensively preserved was in 1841, and the first Births, Deaths and Marriages register was in 1837," said Mr Stuart. "Before that, there are only the parish registers and some of those don't contain any more information than name and date of death. For those tracing their family, they can't tell whether it's a brother, son or father. A gravestone almost always says 'beloved brother of' or 'beloved son of' ."
The archive, with BBC History Magazine, is launching the Mysterious Memorials competition to get readers to submit the "most surprising, enigmatic or bizarre" historical British gravestone epitaphs. "We have to record this information before it dies out before our eyes," said Mr Stuart.
Contenders so far include one from Eshness in the Shetlands that reads: "Donald Robertson, born 14th January 1785. Died 14th June aged 63. He was a peaceable, quiet man, and to all appearances a sincere Christian. His death was much regretted which was caused by the stupidity of Laurence Tulloch of Clothister (Sullom) who sold him nitre instead of Epsom Salts by which he was killed in the space of five hours after taking a dose of it."
Another from All Saints Church, Darfield, Barnsley, states simply: "The mortal remains of Robert Millthorp who died September 13th 1826 aged 19 years. He lost his life by inadvertently throwing this stone upon himself whilst in the service of James Raywood or Ardsley, who erected it in his memory".
On a darker note is an entry from All Saints, Wilstead, Beds, which reads: "I you see as you pass by, As you are so once was I, As I am so must you be, Therefore prepare to follow me."
Dave Musgrove, the editor of BBC History Magazine, said: "Gravestones are vital to learning about our family and local history. From accounts of bizarre deaths and witty last words, to highlights of lives lived, personal assaults and biting social commentary, they tell us some fascinating stories of past human life, and that's exactly what we're asking people to find for us".
The best entry will be announced in October's edition of the magazine.
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jouweleen Groovedog Yeti Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Total posts: 87 Location: Earth Age: 83 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 17-08-2007 21:27 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Each year in England 25,000 gravestones are lost and with them the important historical information they contain.
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I have a related question for anyone interested in hypothesizing...we lose 25000 grave stones per year in England -but in England, as well as here in the states, grave yards are revered and set apart as land that cannot be disturbed. So in our future, if we don't change our current practices of interment - don't you think we'll need a LOT more land. Vast cities of the dead? Or do you think that logical will rule the day and people won't care about our epitaths? Maybe just making a video log of our headstones?
I, for one, would like a nice, spacious masoleum. |
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mrpoultice Wandering the fens..looking at the moon Fenlander Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Total posts: 370 |
Posted: 21-08-2007 09:52 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | if we don't change our current practices of interment - don't you think we'll need a LOT more land. Vast cities of the dead? |
This has been a thorny problem the City of London has been dealing with since the late 1800s Too many dead not enough space to bury em.
Graveyards can be disturbed after a set period of time has passed, with the bodies being removed and reinterred elsewhere. But this is ahead of development or reuse of the land for another purpose, not for reburial.
However that is probably soon to change as the Home Office is finally getting round to acting on a set of surveys done back in the 1990s and looks as if it might change the laws to allow reburial in old plots.
INFO HERE
And the report document available as a pdf HERE |
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